The Hunter Biden emails may be fakes!!!!

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    https://time.com/5902557/hunter-biden-rudy-giuliani-ukraine/

    this could be another Russian operation. Its 100% fact that Guiliani met with a Russian agent to get this info




    Explicit photos and emails purportedly belonging to Hunter Biden were circulating in Ukraine last year at the same time that Rudy Giuliani was searching for dirt there on former Vice President Joe Biden, two people approached about the material during that period tell TIME.

    One mystery that has surrounded Giuliani’s effort to aid Trump’s re-election bid is the original source of the photos and emails he has leaked to the New York Post. No other news organization has been able to verify the contents of the leak. The Biden campaign, along with U.S. national security officials and social media platforms, have warned that the leaked files could include forgeries meant to confuse or mislead voters in the final weeks of the campaign. Experts on disinformation have also raised serious concerns about the leaks.

    In an interview with TIME, a second person described an offer that was made to him in Kyiv, Ukraine’s capital, in mid-September 2019. This person declined the offer, he says, and only recalled it in detail when familiar-looking material was published in the New York Post last week. This person alleges that the people offering this material had a buyer in mind for it: they said they wanted to sell it to Republican allies of President Trump. Their asking price was $5 million, he says, adding: “I walked away from it, because it smelled awful.”

    In its first report about Hunter Biden on Oct. 14, the New York Post published what it described in a headline as a “smoking gun email” dated April 2015 between Hunter Biden and an adviser to Burisma Holdings, the Ukrainian gas company where Hunter Biden held a lucrative board seat while his father was Vice President. The email, whose authenticity could not be independently confirmed, appeared to suggest that the adviser, Vadym Pozharskyi, had met and “spent some time” with Joe Biden, thanks to an introduction from Hunter Biden. If the alleged meeting took place, it would seem to undercut the repeated claims from Biden and his son that they never discussed Burisma.

    The Biden campaign has denied that any such meeting happened. Amos Hochstein, who served as an adviser to Joe Biden on Ukrainian affairs in 2015, said the then-Vice President did not attend a meeting with Pozharskyi. “He never met with Biden. Never,” Hochstein tells TIME.

    During his travels in Europe last year, Giuliani met with a variety of Ukrainian politicians, businessmen and former law enforcement officers whom he has since described as “whistleblowers” and witnesses to the Biden family’s alleged corruption in Ukraine. None of the accusations these sources made via Giuliani has stood up to public scrutiny, and no evidence has emerged of wrongdoing by Joe Biden in Ukraine.

    When TIME asked Novikov, the former adviser to Ukraine’s President, about the alleged offers of access to Hunter Biden’s emails, Novikov said it would be “nothing new” for someone in Ukraine to market such material. The trade in kompromat—a Russian word for “compromising material”—has gone into overdrive in Ukraine since last year, when the country became entangled in internal U.S. politics, especially during the impeachment inquiry against President Trump, Novikov says. Various political operatives have rushed to answer Giuliani’s call for dirt on the Bidens, creating what Novikov called a “catalyst for disinformation.” Any documents emerging from this trade should be treated with caution, he adds, because they are “extremely hard to verify, yet very easy to fake.”

    During a trip to Ukraine in December, Giuliani met with a Ukrainian lawmaker who has since been identified by the U.S. Treasury Department as an “active Russian agent” with longstanding ties to Russian intelligence services. The lawmaker, Andrii Derkach, did not respond to messages seeking comment.

    In a social media post on Monday, Derkach claimed that the “scandalous investigation” published in the New York Post would soon have a sequel based on a “second laptop” purportedly containing the private emails and photos of Hunter Biden. “The facts confirming international corruption are stored on a second laptop,” Derkach wrote. “These are not the last witnesses or the last laptop.”






    sorry guys, but this smells like another Russian operation to **** with our election.

    but this time, we won't buy it. we don't let them do this to us again.

     
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    Well, let's have Hunter come out and sit down with the media and answer its questions. Until then "may be" doesn't cut it.
     
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    It’s just October surprise shenanigans from an increasingly desperate party.
     
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    Why would he need to do that? That would just accomplish exactly what the perpetrators of these shenanigans want. They want to make this the issue instead of Trumps performance.
     
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    nobody has been able to verify the authenticity of the emails.
     
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    Only when you can name what elected office Hunter is vying for.
     
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    It really bothers you that this all appears to be true concerning Hunter doesn't it?
     
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    Seems like wishful thinking to me, not "truth".
     
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    the emails were being sold for a year in Ukraine for $5 million.

    nobody was interested.

    then Rudy, who was working with a Russian agent, suddenly got duped
     
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    Agreed. Enough with all this speculation from both sides. Let’s see what the authorities produce as actual evidence.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the mere fact that these emails were being peddled in Ukraine for a year as compromat against Biden, and nobody was interested, and Russia did hack Burisma, makes this all stink to high heaven
     
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    A nothing burger with a side of fries, no doubt.
     
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    Don't need to. I am voting against Joe because of this. Unless the bidens sit down and answer probing questions, not changing my mind.
     
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    No doubt. But until that happens fools on both sides will continue to chirp about what they “heard”.
     
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    Then Hunter should have no problem letting us know.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    will you vote against Trump until he releases his taxes?

    and if not, why not? didnt he promise to release them?
     
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    And if it turns out to be nothing you will have voted that way for no good reason. Brilliant.
     
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    Looks like hunter with the crack pipe to me.
     
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    Don't care. They get grilled or I am voting the other way. Trump is the devil we know.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL...are you saying you were about to vote against Trump before this BS fake emails came out?

    LOL!!!! :p
     
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    No.

    Because I don't care what is in Trump's tax returns.

    He said he would release them when his audit is over. Is his audit over?
     
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    no, we dont know.

    he still refuses to release his taxes....and for some reason you dont care
     
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    I never made up my mind. Both sides suck.
     
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    That’s rational...
     
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    Sure because if he did, you would totally vote for him then :alcoholic:
     

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