The importance of vaccination as regards Covid

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  1. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    From the WHO here: Q&A on vaccination and travel this summer

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    And do not give-up on the precautions mentioned just because summer-turns-to-autumn ...

    PS: Also be careful of where you put your hands and keep them OFF your face (nose and mouth) at all times! Employ a clean-handkerchief!
     
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    And wash your face
    And wash your face mask! Hint it should not be able to stand by itself !

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    I think that mask would absolutely ensure everyone around you maintained social distancing lols!
     
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    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I found some KN95s for a very inexpensive price in China. As you may know, the N95 is/was an American invention. The "K" simply means that the filter was made in China. (I read somewhere.)

    It works pretty damn well and is not cumbersome - if you buy the variety with the inhalation-filter that allows one to breath a bit easier. See photo here.

    PS: Some French are playing "stoopid" again, having taken to the streets to insist one need not wear a mask. Which means they supposedly have the inherent right to contract Covid and spread-it-around. (Curiously, many of them actually work at French Covid-treatment-centers!)
     
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    It's an exhalation valve and it allows the sick to exhale infected air. Don't use them if you want to protect others.

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    Someone who follows all the precaution procedures to a letter, but decided not to get vaccinated, is probably doing a lot more to prevent the spread than someone else who just got the vaccination.

    Americans these days often seem to be looking for a magic one-time pill to solve all their problems.
    (Just look at the weight loss industry, how much is spent on pills vs actual exercise and healthy eating)


    Nearly 60% of hospitalized COVID-19 patients in Israel fully vaccinated, data shows
     
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  6. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    STUPIDITY IS AS STUPIDITY DOES

    Now that's a consummate stupidity if I have ever seen one. (And I see them every weekend by the thousand in France parading to defend their right not to vax-Covid!)

    They deserve to get killed by the damn thing! Instead of just passing it around! Stoopidity is as stoopidity does.

    Yep, the Yanks think there must be a pill for everything. Just saw an ad for a Happiness Pill! Very cheap! Delivered to your doorstep by mail!

    See from here: Happy Pills In America

    Pop-a-pill and get on with life ... !
     
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    Are you unwilling to question your own beliefs you hold?

    It seems you've taken a "fact" for granted as the truth.
     
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    You know what I think is the issue here? You inherently are oriented to believe that "following the rules" and "doing what you are told" is more effective at solving the problem than personal responsibility. If - and this is hypothetical - someone truly wanted to avoid any risk of contracting the virus at all costs, they'd think of their own ways to avoid exposure and think of preventative measures that made practical sense for their lifestyle.

    You want to impose a one-size-fits all solution approach. That is so bureaucratic and goes along with the collectivist mentality. People have to do this one thing to solve the problem.
    A more conservative approach would be to offer people a range of different choices to help protect themselves and do their part for the rest of the community.

    Now I'm not arguing there can't be some rules, but you shouldn't get all totalitarian about it, and there should be flexible alternatives built into those rules, so if people don't want to do it one way, they can do it another.
     
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    A cloth mask has the same holes since it does not seal properly. So does your nose!
     
  10. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is an online debate-forum. It has significant limits. And had you been familiar with in-person debates you would understand why/how.

    Try to "debate" within those limits nonetheless. Your question above is irrelevant in this present context. (Or, is it that the commentary pleases you to just stir-the-shat?)

    Moving right along ...
     
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    Perfect BS. Covid requires a killer agent. And we have one.

    So just take the stuff and move on. I've had two shots and will take the third - but don't really think it necessary where I live.

    Otoh, Covid will kill you if it gets a chance and perhaps (given what you write here) that is what you secretly favor?

    If so, Wow! Have you got a problem ... !
     
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    De gustibus non est disputandum ...
     
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    What's that supposed to mean? You mean a death rate under 0.5% for those under 60 years of age?
     
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    Moderna sent to Japan killed people from metal they found in the Serum. Take 2 thousand I.U. daily of vitamin D3 and move on with your life. Pink Elephant guns are hap hazard and hard to sight in.

    P.S. Always wear a mask, and stay out of crowds in all rooms no matter what the size.
     
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    Well put - but some will think such is the end-of-the-world ...
     
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    Unlike many Vitamins. D3 is a Vital Mineral that works like a Hormone when processed thru the liver and or Kidneys. Having something to do with mRNA and how it breaks thru barriers in blood to complete it's process. Just as Hydrogen Peroxide attacks bacteria in a better way then antibiotics which can lead to mutations. It seems like Big Pharma is running the covid show.
     

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