The Incredible Shrinking Faithful.

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  1. whirlingmerc

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    Perhaps but I tend to think it's best to move from trusting in experiences to resting on God's promises.
     
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    But.... your own personal story is important.....

    Rev 12:11

    And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
     
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    Some people have been given a story that is
    up there in the league with the story that Lazarus must have had after being dead for four days......

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#top


     
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    True........ belief in books, gods and prophets is
    far less important than having a deep level of thankfulness for our family.......
    our friends...... our pets.... our homes...... at whatever level they may be at!
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My wife is Pentecostal......
    the worship music at many of the churches that she took me to is
    really pretty impressive!

    Although I do not comprehend the gift of glossalia that I have seen her
    exhibit.... I do believe that it fits with Acts chapter 2.
     
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    If the dummy hadn't attended lousy Louisiana schools she would have been smart enough to forecast the results of her actions.
     
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    Yeshua said that his followers have to hate their families and even themselves.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Apparently the original Greek would have meant....."love less in comparison."

    If it was actually spoken in Hebrew or Aramaic.... I suspect that same idea would be true in those languages as well.

    If we are supposed to love others....... practically even more than ourselves.......
    then we should be especially appreciative of those closest to us.......


    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a04

    John 16:25

    These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father.
     
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    Yes. It will look like this one based on truth instead of lies.



    Regards
    DL
     
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    Indeed. It is logical to say that if some God wants to be relevant to mankind, he would show up.

    Yahweh/Jesus say we are all sons of God yet they continue to act like absentee deadbeat dads. Not to mention that Yahweh did that when he abandoned Jesus after coveting Mary, another man's wife and cuckolding Joseph.

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    Perhaps he thought that his own prick of a God should have stepped to die to fill his own unjust condition of forgiving man by punishing the innocent instead of the guilty.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    So you think the biblical translators and those who paid them were incompetent in Hebrew or Aramaic and Greek.

    Not logical that but ok.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    That is close to my Gnostic Christian thinking that the only thing we need saving from is stupid or foolish thinking.

    Regards
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    Especially when that promise says that the vast majority of us will be on that wide road to hell and only a few on the narrow path to heaven.

    Nature creates for the best possible end of yet God does the opposite. Oh well.

    Regards
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    What is it with Christians and blood sacrifice. I do not know why they fight against becoming civilized and ignore the scriptures that speak against it.

    I guess Christians want to be washed in it too hide their red faced acceptance of idiotic notions and the lies of their clergy.



    Regards
    DL
     
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    Great to see, AA.

    Seems like the information age is helping more and more people to see religion for what it very likely is ... the biggest SCAM in human history...
     
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    Yaa for education.

    Now if the adults would only learn from their less gullible children.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    A friend of mine who trained for the priesthood (but was never ordained) used to refer to them as cramming on their finals....
     
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    LOL!!!!

    That's funny!!

    Hey I have no issue if a person wants and needs faith.

    But I think the huge amounts of money donated could be used for a better purpose like feeding and clothing people and helping out those in need.

    Now some churches do have such programs and I tip my hat to them but still the vast majority of the money collected is not being used properly.

    AA
     
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    I agree. Do you have a link showing the stats?

    They should look a little bit like these.


    The crooks ain't just confined to religions. Here are a few more crooks:

    Rank Charity name... Total raised by solicitors ...Paid to solicitors ... % spent on direct cash aid

    1 Kids Wish Network 137.9million 115.9 million 2.5%

    2 Cancer Fund of America 86.8million 75.4 million 1.0%

    3 Children's Wish Foundation International 92.7million 61.2 million 10.6%

    4 Firefighters Charitable Foundation 62.8million 53.8 million 7.4%

    5 International Union of Police Associations, AFL-CIO 66.6million 50.4 million 0.5%

    6 Breast Cancer Relief Foundation 63.9million 44.8 million 2.2%

    7 American Association of State Troopers 48.1million 38.6 million 8.9%

    8 National Veterans Service Fund 70.2million 36.9 million 7.8%

    9 Children's Cancer Fund of America 43.7million 34.4 million 4.6%

    10 Children's Cancer Recovery Foundation 38.5million 28.9 million 0.7%

    11 Project Cure (Bradenton, FL) 53.8million 25.5 million 0.0%

    12 Committee For Missing Children 26.6million 23.5 million 0.8%

    13 Youth Development Fund 27.5million 22.6 million 1.0%

    14 Association for Firefighters and Paramedics 24.0million 21.4 million 3.1%

    15 Woman To Woman Breast Cancer Foundation 19.4million 18.2 million 0.3%

    16 United States Deputy Sheriffs' Association 25.6million 17.9 million 0.8%

    17 National Caregiving Foundation 21.0million 17.4 million 3.2%

    18 Vietnow National Headquarters 19.1million 16.7 million 2.8%

    19 National Cancer Coalition 42.1million 16.4 million 1.3%

    20 Operation Lookout National Center for Missing Youth 18.2million 14.7 million 0.0%

    21 American Foundation For Disabled Children 15.8million 13.4 million 0.6%

    22 Heart Support of America 31.4million 12.9 million 3.1%

    23 Police Protective Fund 37.7million 12.2 million 0.7%

    24 Veterans Assistance Foundation 12.4million 11.1 million 10.4%

    25 Children's Charity Fund 14.0million 10.3 million 2.4%

    26 The Veterans Fund 12.6million 10.2 million 2.5%

    27 Wishing Well Foundation USA 12.6million 10.1 million 4.3%

    28 Disabled Police Officers of America Inc. 11.4million 9.5 million 2.3%

    29 Disabled Police and Sheriffs Foundation 10.4million 8.9 million 1.0%

    30 National Police Defense Foundation 10.6million 8.4 million 5.1%

    31 Defeat Diabetes Foundation 12.7million 7.8 million 0.0%

    32 American Association of the Deaf & Blind 10.3million 7.8 million 0.1%

    33 Optimal Medical Foundation 7.8million 7.6 million 1.0%

    34 Circle of Friends For American Veterans 9.3million 7.2 million 4.4%

    35 United Breast Cancer Foundation 12.7million 7.2 million 6.3%

    36 Reserve Police Officers Association 7.8million 6.9 million 1.2%

    37 Children's Leukemia Research Association 9.8million 6.8 million 11.1%

    38 Disabled Police Officers Counseling Center 7.6million 6.4 million 0.1%

    39 Shiloh International Ministries 7.7million 6.0 million 1.1%

    40 Find the Children 7.4million 4.8 million 4.6%

    41 Survivors and Victims Empowered 7.7million 4.8 million 0.0%

    42 Firefighters Assistance Fund 5.7million 4.7 million 3.1%

    43 Caring for Our Children Foundation 5.1million 4.4 million 1.6%

    44 National Narcotic Officers Associations Coalition 5.0million 4.2 million 0.0%

    45 Our American Veterans 2.6million 2.3 million 2.3%

    46 Roger Wyburn-Mason & Jack M Blount Foundation For Eradication of Rheumatoid Disease 9.0million 1.9 million 0.0%

    47 Hope Cancer Fund 2.1million 1.7 million 0.5%

    48 Firefighters Burn Fund 2.0million 1.7 million 1.5%


    Crooks all, and there ain't nothing illegal about it.

    I also think that religions should not receive any tax breaks of any kind and that their adherents should not be able to use what they give as tax deductions.

    Churches are just theatres showing adult fairy tales and we cannot deduct what we spend at other theatres so people should not be able to deduct what is basically entertainment.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    A young man in Israel is packing synagogues........
    and what he was shown fits with your Multiverse Theory....
    because it certainly seems that the enthusiasm of the response to
    the message he is giving........ may have already pushed us into a very
    different time line........



    I have been studying near death experience accounts since 1990. I believe that Natan recounted all that he saw as accurately as any human could do so. But.... prayers can alter the events for the better. Physicists write about Multiverse Theory..... it means that Ezekiel 37 can occur again and again and again and new time lines can be spun off. Each one can be better.... as we pray and repent at a greater level.

    I completely agree with what Natan said that something as seemingly small as wearing Tzitzit can be very important. I am a Christian who looks at the words of Rabbi Yeshua differently than most do.

    "Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven." ... This sound a lot like what Natan said......

    Two years that are extremely important for the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple and the beginning of the fulfillment of Ezekiel chapters 40 - 48 are 2070.... and 2030 for us Christians. If we support you in what you must do...... many troubles can be avoided. Millions, perhaps even billions of lives will be saved if Christian and some Muslims support the rebuilding of the Third Temple by 2030.... rather than the forty year delay.
     
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    I've seen this with some other near death experience accounts where somebody was shown a future.......
    when people take the warning seriously.... the entire scenario can be altered.....

    Under President Clinton.... the following prediction would have had an entirely different flavour than during a Donald Trump administration:

    http://destination-yisrael.biblesea...-revelation-of-a-secular-jewish-teenager.html

     
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    You gave a number a few months ago that
    could well finance a paradigm shift in how the world
    does business........

    4.3 trillion dollars US......

    You are quoted on that number in post #19 here:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/jamie-baillie-nova-scotia-israel-and-jordan.506627/
     
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    On the other hand.....
    one of his disciples may have reincarnated in our time period and after his
    near death experience in 1966..... and after learning to do deep meditation by
    the '80's.. ... he was shown fascinating details about the life of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus.

    Yeshua.... did apparently impress his disciples as being almost suicidal...........

    http://www.thomastwin.com/7 A Thomas samples.html
     

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