The irony in the case for masking kids.

The same people who object to abortions and somehow believe it's their right to stop a woman from choosing an abortion are also the people who demand that their kids need not mask up at school where they can contract and spread a deadly disease.
No hypocrisy there.

 

None whatsoever

Apparently the latest trend on Reddit is to award a “Herman Caine” award to those anti-maskers and anti-vaxxer who are dying from Covid. Some of that could be pure trolling but I think some is that people are tired of the non-compliant who choose “freedumb” over social responsibility



All over those parts of America seeing the “pandemic of the unvaccinated” there is compassion fatigue

 

Children are minimally at risk from COVID despite being the least controllable and most dirty age group by far. The 0-17 age group has 0.06% of the deaths from COVID, with two thirds of those deaths involving comorbidities.

This is indeed one of the saving graces of COVID-19 - for whatever reason it is far less dangerous to children. An unvaccinated child is at far less risk of dying from COVID than a vaccinated adult.

We are getting to the point in this pandemic where we are starting to ask how many deaths we're willing to accept. Unfortunately some have no sense of proportion and will not accept anything but zero deaths for any activity.

If this was applied uniformly our country would be a truly terrible place to live - no boxing, no driving for non-essential reasons, no unprotected sex without two negative STD tests each, no delicious, delicious burgers with their mayonnaise and cheeeeeeeeese.

 

Fatality rate is rising with the new variant. No kids need die just for going to school. What does it take to get anti vaxers to stop killing kids? A distraught mom wheeling the body of her 8 years old baby girl around one of their rallies? Will the anti faxers line up to remind her that while preventable her child's death is acceptable so their children don't have to mask until the vaccination for all kids is available and required?

 

Herd stupidity rises with each 'new variant' brought by the clot shots. Herd stupidity and paranoia.

 

You are not intentionally trying to stop a heartbeat when you take off a mask. When you perform a perform an abortion it is done with the sole purpose of stopping a heartbeat. It’s not hypocrisy because it’s very different.

 

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/05/1025...e-but-coronavirus-in-children-on-the-rise-too
And then there is this

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)01253-8/fulltext

 

Agreed, but still, 3 recent studies published on the CDC site show that masking kids does decrease the level of contagion in schools, which has three advantages: keeps schools open (it's very psychologically, socially, and cognitively important for kids to attend school in person), keeps adults who staff the schools safer, and keeps the families of those kids safer.

Sure, it's only 0.06% of the kids who get in trouble with Covid, but do remember that these kids have adults and seniors in their families who aren't as safe.

Given that there are practically no downsides to masking up the kids, I don't see why we shouldn't be doing it.

And then, 480 kids have died of Covid-19 in America last I checked. Can you think of how devastating it is for these 480 families?

A pediatrician said, "if a disease killed 300 kids we'd be all over it trying to protect the kids."

Even though it's a small fraction of the youth population, it's still 480 tragedies. Why not use a harmless too (a good facemask) to protect them a bit more even if the risk is statistically small?

Remember, things like meningitis kill a similar number of kids per year, and when an outbreak happens we get all upset... but suddenly, because it's highly politicized Covid-19, it's no big deal? Makes no sense.

I'd say that just one kid dying of a dangerous infectious disease from going to school is one too many, and I welcome measures to keep them safe.

 

None what ever.

 

I'd say given that studies from numerous places show that putting masks on kids under 12 is the moral equivalent medical quackery and in most cases does far more harm than good.

 

What harm? What exactly is the harm you talk about? Please link to legitimate scientific studies showing that facemasks make kids sick. I won't hold my breath because you won't find any.

Now, there are studies showing that masks in schools work. Here:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/masks-help-keep-schools-open-cdc-finds-181915677.html

 

Dude that study is bogus as the day is long. It has no control group it includes no information from schools where there where no mask were mandated. The study you've sighted is little more than a long winded assumption with no real info to support it. Other studies out if Israel regarding masks indicate that masking children under twelve is literally a waste if time. Another study from the same country shows that masking 12 and up is only marginally and likely less so against the far more contagious delta variant which requires lower amounts of virus to contract.

 

All indications and evidence points to children much more likely to suffer harm wearing masks than not wearing masks, and this has absolutely nothing to do with abortion.

 

Actually you're probably right about it. But it's a very difficult matter to study so we probably will never know what the benefits would be, but at least there are no downsides.

 

I beg to differ. Indications are that young school children are harmed socially, emotionally and educationally by the forced wearing of masks.

 

Maybe so. I was thinking more of the biological side. But yes, it must be distracting for young kids to be masked during the entire school day; harder to read emotions on faces, harder to interact with peers and teachers...

 

Beyond a sharp increase in juvenile mental illness you mean?

 

It's incredibly stupid to expect kindergarteners first and second graders to wear masks on their face properly not only will they be worn improperly but they're grubby little hands will be touching all over them picking their nose putting their fingers in their mouth their ears their eyes touching the mask and then going and touching everything else and cross-contaminating every other surface that they're grubby little hands touch.

A high functioning moron could see the logic in this.

 

Now I know you don't answer my post but perhaps someone else will see this and ask you the same question as a healthcare professional does the obvious cross-contamination issue concern you at all?

 

Immediately after your quoted bit from the NPR article was this:

"In states reporting, children accounted for fewer than one-quarter of 1% of all COVID-19 deaths. Seven states reported no child deaths, while other states reported 0-0.03% of all child coronavirus cases resulting in death. As of July 29, a total of 358 children have reportedly been killed by COVID-19 in the U.S."

I never said children didn't have caregivers dying, my claim was that COVID is not an especially deadly disease to children. And the facts in your link bear that out.

 

It is not always about mortality - morbidity plays a factor too

 

Which is why the rest of us should mask up

 

But the result is that you have, I hope through ignorance, caused the heartbeat of a living, thinking, trusting, loving, learning, playing, innocent child to stop because you've removed the masks of children for no other reason than you are having a hissy fit.
Vaccinations will shortly be available. They will be required in most school districts.

 

Well COVID goes best with hyperbole, drama and skewed data

 

So tell us, how do you keep a mask on a two/four year old(s) in Africa or America? Bondage, staples, reasoning.. Me thinks you have never even attempted get a child to sit still for a minute LMFAO