The irony of no slavery in America is no sizeable contributions to the BUILDING of it

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. I'm guessing the majority of Americans couldn't have cared less, either.
     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    It's just like the white race baiting agitator the op always likes to talk about. Telling us that everyone knows who he is when literally no one here has ever heard of the guy.

    If you have to keep reminding people that "everyone knows" about this or that it's a pretty good sign that no one knows or cares about it.
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yet, on every political forum I’ve been on in the last 24 years or so, white men continue to remind everyone how only white man advanced society.
     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    I'm a white man and I don't do that.
     
  5. Pelham Gardens

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    No, it was from 1619 to 1865
     
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    What would reparations actually do for people besides a quick spending spree that would soon be over? What happens after that is the problem. If Reparations would end crime as bad as it is now and turn people into being more responsible, I would be all for it. I think mankind is just infallible and giving money won't change anything. The problems will still remain regardless of race.

    What probably should be done is making it easier for African Americans to purchase houses with no money down and free college education via grants for minorities. Let people create their own success which improves their responsibility instead of throwing money at most who would be irresponsible. Any race would be irresponsible if they are poor and are just being given money for doing nothing.
     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    So you believe that garbage too huh? Why am I not surprised?
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believe AFRICA needs to pay repartitions ASAP. I expect them to pay it to all of the families of people murdered by blacks (a HUGE number), because if these greedy Africans didn't sell their people (who were already slaves) for BOTTLES OF RUM (thats how important they were to them), then they would have never been here to commit those crimes.
    For all the uneducated out there, if you wanna do repartitions right, you go to the START of the supply chain.
    This is why the DEA goes after the DRUG DEALERS and not the DRUG DOERS
     
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    I, for one, could do without them.
     
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    Young whites and interracial couples would disagree with you.
     
  11. Pelham Gardens

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    Wrong.

    No one cares about white country singers.

    Michael Jackson, Kobe Bryant are UNIVERSAL.
     
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    I'll admit, this seems like a weird take. Without slavery there would be no Black entertainers in America? Uh OK, but there would be black entertainers in Africa who wouldn't have had there ancestors enslaved (at least by outsiders).
     
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    But that IS 'throwing money'. It's also horribly discriminatory.

    Only a racist would think it's okay to advantage one race over others.
     
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    Why did the Confederacy claim to be the first country in the history of civilization founded on the principle of black subjugation? Why was their flag the first national flag specifically designed to commemorate white supremacy?
     
  15. crank

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    "Country" singers? I'm still marvelling at your bizarre idea that white people only do country music and opera. Hilarious!

    Dude, I'd never heard the name Kobe Bryant before he made the news for being dead. Other than the odd fan of the specific sport, people outside America don't know your sports stars, and have no interest in them whatsoever.
     
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    They financed some of the biggest companies and fabulous houses and public buildings by the sweat of their labour.
    The profits slave owners made allowed investment in infrastructure, transport, shipping and materials that created cities like Manchester in the UK to exist...it grew on the back of cotton and weaving and processing /textiles. I am sure other cities grew in the US from the labour of slaves....picking crops.
     
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    Yep, not to mention those who could have just immigrated willingly to the US. It's like the think the only reason why a black person would ever get on a boat is if they were forced to.
     
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    I assume that's the OP's point.
     
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    Frankly I cannot accept the argument that Africans practised slavery too.
    They were utterly uneducated in the ways of human rights and western morals. Why do some excuse slavery because relative barbarians practised it? Is this who slavers wanted to emulate? ( while calling them barbarians too).
     
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    Oh, the irony-- ay?
     
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    Oh, like how whites had an advantage from 1492 to 1970?
     
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    The drift I get from your thread, is that it is racist in nature, to a bizarre level, to suggest that black entertainers and athletes are not only better than their white counterparts, but also more beloved.

    I am someone, btw, who consistently speaks up against those who claim that blacks are inferior to whites. But you are the rare example, of truly reverse racism. Why can't you accept that, in each case, we are discussing a person, not an ethnicity?

    How will you ever be able to process the baseball home run in a single season record being held by Aaron Judge, who has a black father but a white mother? The former record-- I will call it, though I don't think Judge has actually broken it, yet-- has been held for quite a long time, by Roger Maris (who was white). It may come as a surprise to you, that there have been many, beloved, and skilled, white athletes, such as Lou Gehrig, Babe Ruth, Joe DiMaggio, Whitey Ford, and Thurmond Munson, to just name a few baseball players, from a single team.

    The current heavyweight boxing champion, as well as champs in other weight classes, is white. There is not any boxer at the moment, and maybe ever, IMO, who is pound for pound, the equivalent of Light Heavyweight Champ, Artur Beterbiev. Can you guess his skin color?

    This is not to deny that there have also been many great black boxers-- Mike Tyson (for a short while), Larry Holmes, Muhammed Ali, George Foreman, Joe Lewis, etc., etc , etc.-- and black athletes. But there is something both divisive, and deeply mistaken, in viewing athletes so fully, as primarily representatives of a race.
     
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    Yes, exactly like that. That's precisely my point.

    So why on earth would you want to perpetuate such horrific racism?
     
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    Giving black people opportunities is not racism....this is leveling the playing field for everyone, including poor whites.

    EVERYBODY should have rights. EVERYBODY. This should not be hard.

    Everyone deserves to have rights.

    I don't think this is a zero sum game......
     
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    They would never miss what never existed.
     

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