The January 6th committee was a publicity stunt.

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Start with the despotic crap then move on to the fact that ninety percent of what you know about J6 is utter claptrap.
     
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    the right, still trying to blame maga's bad acts on the police....
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Media Bias Fact Check literally is a written opinion site by a man with a ""Communications Degree in college"" Dave Van Zandt

    The flagrant and simplistic nature of these bogus critiques suggests that Media Bias Fact Check is either inept and/or dishonest.
    https://www.justfactsdaily.com/media-bias-fact-check-incompetent-or-dishonest

    Discredited, self-styled ‘fact-checker’ website was served with a ‘cease and desist’ legal notice today for publishing unsubstantiated and defamatory claims against Principia Scientific International (PSI).
    MEDIA BIAS/FACT CHECK site owner admits he is unqualified and misrepresented himself as a seasoned journalist.
    https://climatechangedispatch.com/media-bias-fact-check-site-served-cease-and-desist/

    Media Bias/Fact Check bills itself as "The most comprehensive media bias resource." It's run by Dave Van Zandt, making it fair to say it's run by "some guy" ("Dave studied Communications in college" is his main claim to expertise).
    We have nothing against "some guy" possessing expertise despite a lack of qualifications, of course. One doesn't need a degree or awards (or audience) to be right about stuff. But is Van Zandt and his Media Bias/Fact Check right about PolitiFact?
    https://www.politifactbias.com/2017/10/can-you-trust-what-media-biasfact-check.html

    Media Bias Fact Check Is a Major SCAM to Silence the Right
    https://www.independentsentinel.com/media-bias-fact-checking-scam-silence-right/

    Don't trust Fact checkers, especially not this one. It favors fake news on the left, and to true sites that are not on the mainstream media, it labels as conspiracy theory and junk pseudo science, when the truth is just the opposite. This website is as biased and as full of lies as you get.
    https://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/mediabiasfactcheck.com comments

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    Media Bias Fact Check sources its information from the Anti-Defamation League and the left-wing Southern Poverty Law Center in order to inaccurately label right-wing websites and organizations as "questionable" sources according to Robert Spencer, who wrote to Media Bias/Fact Check's editor describing the attacks on his website, Jihad Watch, as "pure libel," afterward claiming he received no response from the editor.[23]
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    https://www.palmerreport.com/politics/palmer-report-exclusive-media-bias-fact-check/2115/

    Overall, such fallacious attacks on outsider-opinion represent an effort to strangle social discourse from the top down. In this writer’s opinion, sites like Media Bias Fact Check constitute a desperate retaliatory measure in the wake of the legacy media’s loss of collective attention, and seek to reinforce narrative control in the hands of organizations like the Atlantic Council while smearing reliable sources of scientific journalism like WikiLeaks.
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    If Media Bias Fact Check were to be given a rating, they would be “Left” with “Mixed” honesty. Interestingly enough, they don’t rate themselves. Not that it matters, they’d certainly put themselves squarely in the middle as “Least Biased” with “High” ratings for honesty, neither of which are even remotely true
    https://www.tnvalleytalks.com/topic/media-bias-fact-check-incompetent-or-just-dishonest
     
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    Remember when Lying Jack Smith was going to turn the J6 kangaroo committee's 'findings' in to a criminal trial the day before Super Tuesday?

    Lying Jack Blows It Again, Trump's J6 Trial is Back On Hold

    Wild-Eyed Judge Tanya Chutkan was 'thrown into disarray, however, when Trump’s lawyers filed a motion claiming immunity against the charges.' Lying 'Jack Smith, who is behind the charges, asked the Supreme Court to preemptively rule on the immunity question, but they' told him to pound sand. 'As a result, Chutkan has now vacated the March 4 trial date, placing the matter on hold until a full review of the immunity question is completed.'

    That might be awhile.

    Trump simply 'gave a speech. In that speech, he even talked about the people at his rally going to Capitol Hill to “peacefully protest.” If a president can be sent to jail for that, then every living ex-president should already be behind bars.'

    Fani blew up the GA case by porking her special prosecutor she hired to go after Trump. The FL case is so convoluted that they will never get that to trial before the election, which means all they may end up with is the Bragg crap which is just paperwork issues on which the Statute of Limitations has long run. Trump will likely win that one entirely, making the only case they get to trial before the election a ridiculous case that Trump wipes the floor with them.

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    'If the high Court were to restrict prosecutors’ use of §1512 (Lying Jack Is Trying To Turn This Statute Into Saltwater Toffee), and if in doing so the justices were to remind prosecutors (as they did last term) not to stretch criminal statutes in extravagant ways (as Smith has also done in dubiously charging Trump with fraud and civil-rights violations), it might be necessary for Smith to overhaul his case.'

    https://archive.ph/j7KXh#selection-1091.257-1095.201
     
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    One tiiiiiiiinnnnny flaw with your assigning blame to majority leaders of the house and senate for January 6.
    I'll let you think about this a minute or two before you decide to stick with your explanation that Pelosi and SCHUMER were responsible for January 6 debacle.
    So? Still on board with your explanation? Or do you need more hints?
     
  6. Kal'Stang

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    You might want to re-read what I said if you think I'm saying they are responsible for the riot itself. I even gave a one line summary if that helps ya.
     
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    Take you're own advice.
    AmeriCANs don't hate trump, they're dumbfounded that there is anyone left that supports the traitorous son of bitch; that doesn't mean they hate him. The AbsaByGodLutely don't want him for President again, but they wouldn't stoop to his level and bother hating him.
     
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    I suppose it would be more fun to string you along for a few more posts, but let's make this short and sweet: if the failure of response is to be attributed to majority leaders and the sergeant at arms, know this: Schumer was not senate majority leaser on January 2021, Mitch McConnell and his nominated Sergeant at Arms was also a republican. I think this is a clear case of the Mandella Effect
     
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    More want him the than China Joe and his cohort of dysfunctional dunces.
     
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    That's not true either, people had begun to forget the disaster that trump was and still is. But he's been doing his best to remind them.
     
  12. garyd

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    Let me remind you since you already seem to have forgotten trump is up in 8 out of ten polls and beyond the margin of error in 4.
     
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    Let me remind you. It's February.
     
  14. garyd

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    Transparent yes, incompetent ask yourself who benefited most from the J6. Guess what it wasn't Trump.
     
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    And let me remind you Biden's numbers are even worse against Nikki Hailey as she channels the late John McCain and his over all approval numbers are in the tank the absolute worst since presidential polling first began.
     
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    The United States House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol was a bipartisan select committee of the U.S. House of Representatives. It was formed after Trump's lackeys rejected the formation of an equal-representation Commission. There was obviously a need to investigate an unprecedented attack by goons to prevent the recognition of the certified electoral college votes of all fifty states and DC, the will of the People as expressed on November 3, 2020.
    The need for such a congressional investigation was obvious. Accusations had been made by individuals in positions of power, and intimately aware of the attack upon democracy:
    The thorough, bipartisan investigation featured substantive, documented evidence and the sworn, corroborative testimony of dozens of patriotic Republican witnesses, many of whom had served in the Trump regime.

    The Select January 6th Committee Final Report was issued for public scrutiny.



     
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    Trump's attempts to weasel out of responsibility for his goons' attack on outnumbered police defending democracy fail to explain why he pleasured himself for hours watching the carnage and ignoring the pleas of aides, advisers, media enablers, and family members that he call off his goons. His braying that he would pardon his goons, nearly a thousand of whom have been identified, apprehended, prosecuted, convicted or confessed, underscores his complicity.
     
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    Meh, who can keep all the names straight? :p All them politicians are alike.
     
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    We call those Republicans Neocons when we don't call them something else. Hopefully in another few years we will be calling them History.
    Calling a panel composed solely of Neocons and Democrats bipartisan is like claiming a meeting of skunks and pole cats a coming together of the species. No matter what you call it it still stinks of the same smell.
    Two liars swearing to the same lie does not make it the truth.

    If Trump is Responsible for J6 then Maxine Waters Pelosi and other Dems are responsible for over 2 billion Property Damage the preceding summer.
     
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    Two people swearing to something being called liars doesn't make it a lie.
     
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    I would say your definition of Woke more applies to MAGA
     
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    LOL. Good on you for coming back and admitting your mistake.
    Still don't you find it pretty weird that because of the incessant drumming by Fox and friends that Pelosi was responsible for security that most RW people have no idea that McConnell and Singer had the exact same roles as Pelosi?
     
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    They deferred to Nancy and Schumer since they would be in charge of the incoming congress on J3 But nice try.
     
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    I think that most do know, but saw that it was the Sargent at Arms under Pelosi as being the one that was reported as being the one that told the Capitol Police Chief "No" due to "bad optics" while the guy under McConnell kept silent. At least according to the Capitol Police Chief. By being the one to say "no" that would, in many peoples eyes, put him, and therefore Pelosi as being the ones mainly responsible. Like I said originally we don't know exactly the protocols. Frankly I would like this to ultimately be answered as there has been no real answer to the question..."who was/is ultimately responsible for the security of the Capitol Building? Clear chain of command. From what I can tell its the leaders of Congress, then the Sargent at Arms, then the capitol police.
     
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    Ignoring the childish attempt at diversion ...
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    "Oh, yeah!
    Well, what about...?"
    ... your desperate need to discredit the substantive evidence and sworn testimony of dozens of Republicans and police officers failed.

    Nearly a thousand
    Trump goons have been convicted or confessed thus far. The RINOs of Trumpery's contempt for traditional conservatives does not alter reality.
     
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