The "Knock-Out" Game Continues in New York....Hoodie Wearing Thug on the Subway

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  1. Kylearan

    Kylearan Member

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    No the entire point is some person incorrectly claimed that blacks commit more violent crimes than whites in America. He was wrong. That's the entire point I was making. At least you have the good sense to admit that most violent crimes are committed by whites.

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  2. Brewskier

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    It's easy to love the idea of diversity from afar, safe and secure in your gated white neighborhood. Those of us who grew up living around this wonderful "diversity" tend to have a different opinion of it, however.
     
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    No, he's not.

    The average black person commits more crime than the average white person. No sane person would consider a 5 to 1 difference to be immaterial.
     
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    Well according to the stats you posted yourself, black people did commit slightly more homicides than whites did in terms of pure numbers, not just by %age.

    And this was even counting in Hispanics as "whites".
     
  5. Brewskier

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    So what if he is? So what if he believes whites and Asians are smarter than blacks and Hispanics? So what if he believes whites and Asians tend to be more educated, more successful, and commit less crime? It's all true, based on almost every observable metric we have.

    Find a statistical study that shows blacks and Hispanics do just as well in school on average and commit less crime. You can't. At that point, you have to ask yourself : would I be doing myself more good by asking why that is, or should I just continue to whine about how racist some of my fellow whites are for not sharing in my progressive racial egalitarian views?
     
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    Just to point out some progressive hypocrisy:

    Whenever an article emerges about a pastor or religious person involved in a child sex scandal, progressives will froth at the mouth over it, even though there are no actual statistics that I know of showing that Christians or church officials are more likely to molest children.

    But if someone posts an article about a black person committing violent crime, progressives will label you a 'racist' or a 'Nazi' - even though there are actually stats to back this trend up.

    Wonderful hypocrisy there, progressives.
     
  7. Kylearan

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    They know exactly what I'm talking about. Some people you just can't reach. They hate to hear facts that show whites commit the vast majority of crimes in the USA and most violent crimes. They allow themselves to be brainwashed by TV, racist netrags and ignorant radio talk show hosts. The fact is, the vast majority of blacks and whites don't do crimes at all. But the racists who are angry that they have a black President must try to point fingers at blacks. This has been on the increase every since Obama took the White House. The real cause of crime is poverty, and that is not an excuse, it's just a fact. When people can't find jobs, they turn to crime in greater numbers. I bet if you lump all the criminals together, you'll find the vast majority of violent criminals are poor. I wonder what the crime rates by income rates is.

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    You do realize whites are 70% of the country while blacks are 13%, right? And you do realize that the murder totals for "whites" includes Hispanics, right?
     
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    The overwhelming majority of the murders and other violent crimes that Hispanics commit are counted in the "white" column. Whites and Hispanics comprise over 80% of the population, and only then are these crime statistics matching the crimes committed by blacks, who are just 13% of the population. That's unbelievable, but true.

    Look at the FBI crime statistics charts.... no "Hispanic" column.
     
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    Blacks make up 13% of the population but 26% live in poverty. Whites make up 70% and only 12% live in poverty.

    When people are suffering they become more desperate. That was proven a long time ago in the movie Trading Places.
     
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    I'm sure it plays a factor, however Hispanics and blacks have a similar percentage of their population below the poverty line, and blacks still commit far more violent crime, even now when they are a smaller minority group than Hispanics.
     
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    I live in West Virginia. Believe me when I tell you.................

    1. 93% is greatly exaggerated.
    2. Crimes are extremely easy to get away with in most of the state. The vast majority of crimes go unpunished. Much of the state is only policed by county sherriffs and state troopers. No city police. Banks in much of the state have only recently installed sufficient camera systems. Out in the hills, where I have to admit I don't like going (I'm from the Charleston area) there's crazed people who have never been charged with anything. People go missing out there and are never found. they'll kill you for next to nothing. If you've seen that movie Wrong Turn, you get what I'm talking about. In WV the crime rate is much higher in the cities and suburbs, but I feel WAY safer here than out there in the hills. Some of those hill people are savages.
     
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    No it's not more important. If you had 100 blacks in your town and 10% of them are murderers, that's a high murderer rate. In that same town you had 10,000 whites and 5% of them are murderers, what group causes the biggest problem?

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    Depends on the violent crime being committed. Blacks commit between 49-51% of the murders every year according to FBI crime statistics. Considering the "white" column contains both whites and Hispanics, we can assume blacks commit more murders than either of these groups on their own, so his statement would be correct. Only be bungling up the data, like you did, could you defend your position.
     
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    I don't hear anyone saying that except those who are under this delusion that all liberals want is welfare. Well the amount they pay out in welfare is below the poverty line.

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    And whose fault is that?
     
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    Ivan Reitman?
     
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    I believe that, however when more than 50% of black women become pregnant before age 20, then chances are that they (and their children) are going to grow up in poverty. In some states, nearly half of all black students don't even graduate high school. So this leads to another problem in the black communities. And you can't blame 'poverty' for poor education rates, because education is taxpayer funded.

    Crime can also lead to poverty (rather than vice versa) because felons have a very hard time finding a decent job. And 18 year old black kid who already has a felony on his record probably doesn't have much of a future ahead of him.
     
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    Don't worry, I wasn't expecting a non-troll response.
     
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    Let's pretend for a moment that america is 50% white and 50% black.

    Based on those crime numbers, Blacks would commit 79% of the murders.



    To Kylearen and the rest, your argument is that white people commit the majority of crime in a majority white country. Gee whiz.
     
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    And white males make up 35% of the population but are responsible for 80% of child rape.

    where did all those white parents go wrong?
     
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    Do you have a source for that?
     
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    Well no progressives could argue this one apparently.
     
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    You would be wrong. Interesting that... isn't it? They view "Hispanic" (which is all changing in verbiage to "Hispanic and Latino" for 2013) as an ethnicity of the "white" race.
    http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-43
    Those are the numbers the user posted. Note the categories.

    I don't care what he believes. I was annoyed that he feigned offense at the term racism. He gets to be racist... what I believe isn't "right" because I believe it... just... don't try and be coy. Be yourself.
     

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