The Little GOP That Cried Wolf

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Silhouette, May 14, 2013.

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Do you believe the GOP is sabotaging our recovery?

  1. Yes, yes I do

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  2. No, absolutely not

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  3. It's really beginning to look that way.

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  4. Not sure.

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  1. northwinds

    northwinds Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Millhouse Obama just fired the Acting Director of the IRS......just 24 hours after we were told that this was a couple of "low-level rogue agents at the IRS".......and you say the "Little GOP Cried Wolf".......ROTFLMA......Barb, bring me another beer this is getting good.
     
  2. Silhouette

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    I agree there iriemon. You don't have to hate capitalism, you just have a right to ask it to be patriotic when the country is suffering. If they want to behave treasonously during these hard times, they cannot expect to glean many votes from the middle in any of the near future elections. This economy is that bad and will only get worse as they stonewall.

    And as I said, I've not spoken to one person who even remotely considers that the lack of progress in recovery is anything but the GOP's fault. Those chickens are going to come home to roost in 2014.
     
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    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    Michael Savage just advised the fired/resigned former Acting IRS Director not to leave his home for the next two years lest he be 'silenced' (my word, not Savage's) by the Obama team so he won't be able to testify against Dear Leader.
     
  4. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Except they don't. We tried that with the Bush tax cuts. What got a big boost was their offshore bank accounts, not our economy.
    How do you figure? I don't believe that is even close to accurate.

    So why didn't it? See above.

    Who has insisted on equality?
     
  5. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

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    We had a recovery going until the republicons threw a hissy fit over not getting tax breaks for the schmucks in the finacial sector who put us in the toilet to begin with.

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    The Savage Wiener is a ranting psychopath.
     
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    Superstitious twaddle. The investor class got their tax break and they used it to buy our jobs out from under us and ship them to Chinas. Piddle-down don't work. It is superstitious twaddle, sold to us by an aristorcratic British minger with an attitude problem and an old fart from California whose brains had long since started leaking out his ears.
     
  7. stretch351c

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    And of course, government over regulation and union demands, both of which raise the cost of manufacturing had nothing to do with it, right? Companies exist to make money, if you take away that ability in this country, as the Left has tried to do, companies will move to where they can make money. This is the basic failing of the Leftist ideology of trying to soak the "rich", they forget that wealth is mobile. That's why states like Ca. and NY, that have raised taxes, have seen an exodus of high end wage earners and companies.
     
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    Silhouette, I have to assume this entire post is a joke.

    There is no way that you can be serious about any of this.

    Please tell me you're joking.

    Thank you.
     
  9. leftysergeant

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    Makes perfect sense to those who think with more than the reptillian parts of their brains.
     
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    This is not a legitimate thing to say. You are merely insulting me. If you have nothing legitimate to say, then let other people talk.
     
  11. leftysergeant

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    Right. Because when the unions were growing, so was the middle class, and small entrepreneurs could get a loan and start a business and not have to worry that the Walton larvae were going to throw another MaoMart on the lot across the street and wipe out the smaller retailers in town and reduce them to minimum wage slaves.

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    The post you were insulting made more sense than your response.
     
  12. stretch351c

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    Interesting attempt at changing the subject. Unions and government regulation were, and still are the reason that GM and MoPar needed bailouts. Government regulation and unions are the reason that product are made overseas instead of this country. In the past, unions did help the middle class, now, they hurt them by driving up costs to the point that companies can't afford to make things in this country, thus depriving the middle class of jobs.
     
  13. AceFrehley

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    And still, after the bailouts, just look at what liberalism left in its wake in Detroit:

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    hogwash. The investors moved off shore to make 200X the wages of a working man, instead of the 35X they did when America worked. Do you see the connection. It is not that the workers want too much, but that a bunch of greedy people with money want far and away more than they contribute to society.
     
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    And lefty logic dictates that to combat greedy, rich bastards from going overseas to reduce costs, the fix is to increase their costs even more.

    Brilliant strategy!!
     
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    No. Re-institute tariffs and tax the bejabbers out of the unproductive investors who just trade paper and leave the working class to starve.

    Base the income tax rates on how many people are below the pocerty line and increase each tax bracket accordingly.

    If fity perscent of the country are below the pverty line, tax the top 1% at a minimum of 50%, no exemptions for anything other than a tax credit for re0industrialization projects like physical manufacturing plant.

    And make the health care indusrty not-for-profit like any civilized country does.
     
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    Interesting concept. I guess that explains why companies are moving out of high tax states. Which decreases the number of available jobs, correct? The problem isn't the "greed" of the companies, the problem is the greed of the government.
     
  18. Iriemon

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    That isn't the problem. The problem is there is insufficient demand in the economy because the middle class is so tapped out, and because federal govt spending hasn't increased at over the past three years. The fact that state Govts have laid of 730,000 people hasn't helped either.

    Austerity baby, in inaction.
     
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    And then, there is the problem of corrupt state governments that allow companies to come in and pay workers less that the value of a day's labor so that only the Walton larvae are in line for any secondary ecconomic stream, which, of course, just sucks capital out of the local entrepreneurs' pocket and transfers it to the financial sector.
     
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    Increased government spending doesn't stimulate economic growth. FDR proved that. Growth comes from the private sector. The problem is that the private sector is under attack from the government.
     
  21. Iriemon

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    Year - Real GDP % chng
    1930 -8.6%
    1931 -6.5%
    1932 -13.1%
    1933 -1.3% <- FDR takes office
    1934 10.9%
    1935 8.9%
    1936 13.1%
    1937 5.1%
    1938 -3.4%
    1939 8.1%
    1940 8.8%
    1941 17.1%
    1942 18.4%
    1943 16.4%

    Source: BEA.gov.

    Looks like he proved just the opposite to me.

    Loss comes from the private sector too. The private sector is under no more "attack" now that it was in the 2000s or the 1990s.
     
  22. stretch351c

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    There is also proof that his policies actually extend the Great Depression, just as the policies of this President has extended this recession. Believe what you like, that is your option, but increased government regulation and spending decreases economic growth. That has been proven by history.
     
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    Nope. Everyone knows the stonewalling of the GOP has extended this depression. You're not fooling anyone. And the more you try to chant this phrase as you obviously stonewall recovery, the more guilty you will look and the less votes you'll get in 2014 & 2016.

    The reason I keep saying the old formulas of "they'll forget in six months" won't work is because of two reasons:

    1. The internet and

    2. GOP stonewalling actually is killing recovery so by the time 2014 and 2016 come along, the economy will be even worse than it is now [not in doctored statistics but in actual day to day fact as Joe Voter experiences it]. This will "jog" the memories of those in the current situation then.

    Nobody's buying it. It's so pathetically sad when the little kid stands with his hand still in the cookie jar screaming to all the adults around him "I didnt' steal the cookies! Jimmy did!!" *munch munch...crumbs falling around the corners of his mouth and to the floor beneath him...*

    The GOP's machinations are so transparent even to the dullest out there that it's become a farce and their party a walking joke. A sad and tired comedy routine. It's time to wake them up and throw tomatoes at them.
     
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    Huh? I thought Obama's stimulus saved us from a depression. You're going pretty far of script here. I suggest you check back and get your talking points in order. :)
     
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    Not Obama incompetence?

    You are mistaken.

    Obama got everything he asked for for the first two years in office and produced no results.

    He is the reason the recession lingers on for so long.
     

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