The Long, Uneasy Wait Is Over: Parties, Protests And Solemn Silence Greet Brexit

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  1. DavidMK

    DavidMK Well-Known Member

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    You miss the part where the UK is still in the EU for a year? Nothing changed except the UK no longer has any say.
     
  2. Montegriffo

    Montegriffo Well-Known Member

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    So tell me, when did the UK stop being a part of the European free trade zone and stop aligning itself with EU regulations?
    Careful, it's a trick question.
    Also, it has never been a left - right issue here. That's just your uninformed interpretation of the reasons for voting leave.
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, but thank you for playing. Please take your consolation prize.

    I’m from New York and I work part-time in New Mexico.
     
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    Nope, not if you are a European citizen, everybody else yes. Its like driving your car across the border, or with a train, nobody checks you.
    Some EU countries might have air port security checks, were a ID is required.
    Last year I was in Germany and wanted to look at some property in Portugal. Just hoped on the plane. Check in I had to have my ID, but that was all. Couple of days later I flew back to Germany, same procedure.
     
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    gnoib Well-Known Member

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    And every country is free to leave the EU, all it has to do invoke the article. No US State is free to leave the US. Some tried and it ended in a very bloody civil war.
    Yes, without the UK the EU can move forward and the Aachen contract is a blue print for the next step.
     
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    It is not about the EU to decide what status Brits will have, its each individuals Nation's business. The UK is a 3rd Nation now, not a member of Schengen.
    Each member of the EU can decide what status citizens of a 3rd Country will have.
    Germany is very easy for Brits, 6 month citizens ship, if you are a resident. Spain a very lengthy and cumbersome process, can last over 3 years. Portugal decided like Germany, fast and swift, for UK residents.
     
  7. gnoib

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    Hormone inject Beef.
    I worked as a cowboy, from Texas to Colorado. What do you think is done during the spring round up. The person, who cuts the ear mark and attaches the ear number, implants in the same ear a pellet, a growth hormone. Its legal. Have done that 10000 of times. Same is allowed in the fall, before they go to the feeding stations.
    If you like veal, only buy it, if you know the rancher/farmer or raise it yourself.
    The hormone supposedly is gone after a year. What is striking in the US, compared to Europe, how people from their mid 30s start deform, especially in the hip section, those gigantic arses and upper legs. You can see it in professional athletes, especially women.
    You don't see that in Europe. Heavy and obese people, yes, but not those deformations.
    I am a serious meat eater and lover, but I am rather picky, were I get my meat from, because I have worked in that business. I raise my own cows, because of it.
    I do not drink milk from the US, because I know, very easy on al US diary products, avoid them as good as possible.
     
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  8. gnoib

    gnoib Well-Known Member

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    It is a choice, not a must, you can join and you can leave.
    Texas was a Nation, became a State and can not leave and is for ever locked into the collective. Only war, if won, could free Texas.
     
  9. gnoib

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    You do not understand the Spice of Europe, its is diversity from Nation to Nation and than within the Nations, a diversity no US State has.
    You can travel from Washington to Florida and you have the same ol' same ol'. Try that in Germany and France or any other Nation of the EU.
    200 miles, and everything is different. If a Bavarian speaks his language and a Ostfriesen his, they do not understand each other, the foods are completely different, culture, architecture, its like different countries, in one country. If I speak my native German, 120 miles down the road they will not be able to understand me. Same State, not country. The EU has been done in Europe many times and it is the Spice of the European countries.
    Makes them so special.
     
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    When ever has the EU claimed to be better and superior to the US constitution. The EU has no constitution. The EU has a government made up of 27 Nations, the council, free nations, not states and every Nation has a veto right, no matter how small or large they are, everybody just has 1 vote and 1 veto. Luxemburg 1 vote, Germany 1 vote, France 1 vote and so on and so on. They are Nations, not States.
     
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    Seriously .. THAT'S the concern? You're worried about well-heeled Brits enjoying their vacays?

    Please, dear god ... let that not be the primary objection from the Brits themselves. If so, it would be (horrifying) evidence of just how selfish, elitist, and shallow Remainers really are. And let's not even mention that Greta says travel is extremely bad for the planet. You remember Greta dontcha - the hero of 99% of Remainers?
     
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    Not really. The US model is based on States and each State has only so many Senators, based on population. The EU has only one Senator per Nation, the heads of Government. The smallest and the largest have the same power of vote and veto in the Senate/Council. I think it makes it a better model than the US. Naturally one more difference, each Nation can leave if it wants.
     
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    That's such a relief.
    The public can now freely buy bent bananas, so all British citizens should get on their knees and thank their former masters.
    But the remaining members of the EU still have to comply with some other idiotic rules.
    https://www.businessinsider.com/eu-directives-law-2011-12
     
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    It's incredible to me that anyone would admit vacays are a factor.
     
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    And here's more elitism. People worrying they won't be able to have their nice villa in France. Incredible!

    PS: I'm sorry, but no genuinely poor Brit could even dream of owning a villa in France. Neither would they have enough income to cover private healthcare while living offshore.
     
  16. gnoib

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    Because nothing has happened. Johnson prevent a hard Brexit and has now, officially 11 Month to get a soft Brexit.
    All those predictions were base on a hard Brexit and even Johnson's government predicted it. That's why we have 11 month. I predict more.
    But till than nobody will invest in the UK, it has already lost over 200 billions in investment, over the last 2 years.
     
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    Boo ****ing hoo.
     
  18. gnoib

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    It will cost them less than Medicare and a Plan B or C. Its Europe not the US. Owning a house in France or Spain or Portugal, half or a third what it costs in the UK. Why do you think so many Brits retire in those countries, fixed income, cost.
     
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    Well, they are now stuck on their Island, simple as that.
    Reality check.
     
  20. Montegriffo

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    Villa is your word not mine. The house I was left by my father is a converted barn 23' x 23' with a simple mezzanine floor upstairs with one bedroom. It is very modest but would cost 4 or 5 times as much in the UK.
    I am by no means well off earning less than half the average wage as a chef.
    With membership of the EU, there is no need for private healthcare. Any treatment is covered by the home nation ie by the NHS. As a result, my father received free healthcare in his final years while living in France.
    That is another benefit I'm likely to lose.
     
  21. Montegriffo

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    Yes, it is a huge loss.
     
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    So they're no longer allowed to leave the island? Please explain this new law preventing people from leaving. Or is it some kind of 'wall' or something, electrified and with razor wire atop?
     
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    To whom? Not working class Brits, I can assure you.

    But then globalists aren't interested in the lot of the peasants, are they.
     
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    I'm a working class Brit and it's a big loss to me I can assure you.
    It will also be a big loss to all the working class Brits on the Costa del Sol.
     
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    So pensioners returning will NOT cost the NHS more, .. as you claimed it would. Since they're already using the system.

    And the size of your little place in France is irrelevant - working class Brits don't have that option. It's (at least) a middle class thing. Same scenario in America, where middle class retirees buy a cheaper place in Mexico. Australians go to South East Asia.
     

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