The Lost Plane from Malaysia...

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by NothingSacred, Mar 14, 2014.

  1. NothingSacred

    NothingSacred Active Member

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    My question just for discussion is this...

    Why does the USA have to spend money on investigating another countries crashes on the other side of the planet?

    Why does USA Aviation Administration LEAD the investigation?

    Why are there press conferences at the White House about this?

    And why does the USA have to lead the search?

    A non-US plane, a non-US airline, in the Indian Ocean, between Malaysia, Vietnam and China somewhere.

    This obviously costs multiple million$ of dollar$ and all we ever hear here in the USA is that we are totally broke and can't spend anymore.

    So why is it OK to spend on this? Let Malaysia or China do it. Or investigate only if they pay us enough so that we make a profit by doing it.

    It would be like a plane crashing out of Dulles Airport and the Mozambique Aviation Administration feeling that they need to lead the inquiry.

    Basically, I am sick of being "World Police" and money being spent outside the USA when we are told we are too broke to spend INSIDE THE USA.

    Just stuff I've been thinking as I watch the news about this. I think America is too involved in everything, then they tell us we can't do anything inside our country. But people in the USA watching this on TV don't think to question this? They are just resigned to the fact the the USA must do all this stuff. WTF?
     
  2. Wizard From Oz

    Wizard From Oz Banned at Members Request

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    The United States is a nation among nations. Much of the technology being used and reviewed is US designed. The US would not be helping unless it was asked. Just a friend helping another friend who has a puzzling problem
     
  3. NothingSacred

    NothingSacred Active Member

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    But we are broke, we can't spend money to create jobs, we can't spend to update infrastructure, we can't spend on schools, we can't spend on health care, so why spend on this? I'd rather use the money for foodstamps for crack head baby mommas on welfare, becuase they'll spend it HERE, to stimulate the economy HERE.
     
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    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    Do you have any figures on what we have spent ? Because in reality, we already have the ship and the manpower on the payroll, putting them to useful work instead of cruising the sea on standby really doesn't add any cost.
     
  5. smevins

    smevins New Member

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    It is a US made aircraft. Our airline safety rules are written in blood from crashes all over the world in an effort to avoid future crashes.
     
  6. NothingSacred

    NothingSacred Active Member

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    Not sure, maybe we don't need to spend to "cruise the seas on standby" either, how about reduce the cost of higher education HERE, INSIDE THE USA instead? Or rebuild the bridges that might collapse HERE, INSIDE THE USA instead? just do something, anything HERE, INSIDE THE USA instead?
     
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    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    Well I agree with cutting back on military, but my point was that its probably no real additional cost to search for the missing plane.

    Now one thing you have to keep in mind, is that we employ millions through the military. If we have large scale cutbacks, we will need to figure out what we will do with the large amount of people we are adding to our current unemployment.
     
  8. NothingSacred

    NothingSacred Active Member

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    How about EMPLOY MILLIONS DIRECTLY to upgrade the entire nation's infrastructure over several decades.
     
  9. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    I would like that. Maybe a nice national railroad line with many stops.
     
  10. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    For the same reason that every other nation would help America in times of trouble. Like 9/11 and Katrina for instance-in the latter instance $854 million dollars of foreign aid, including the offer of $400 millions worth of Kuwaiti oil, were pledged. You asked the EU for help, and we helped; even your 'enemies' Russia and China helped...
    Many of the contributing nations were so poor themselves that they could barely afford to help, but offer to help they did-and without being asked-and you're whining about a couple of aircraft, radar technicians and boats? Don't be so bloody mean-spirited, you live in the wealthiest nation on the planet.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_response_to_Hurricane_Katrina
     
  11. NothingSacred

    NothingSacred Active Member

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    Now you're talking about something sensible and potentially valuable.
     
  12. xAWACr

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    Because there were US citizens aboard.
     
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    One plane being lost with 260 people is no "time of trouble" for a nation. In America, probably more than that are killed with guns by their follow citizens daily.

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    That's not worth spending million$ on. $pend it on upgrading the $chools for millions of children HERE instead.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Just one person lost is a huge pile of trouble for those they left behind. I can't believe anyone could be so welded to their cash that they consider the loss of 260 lives as an insignifcant irrelevance and a mere exercise in cost/benefit. That's capitalism in action, folks.
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It crashed? That's very different. If it crashed, we would know for sure that it wasn't being loaded with nukes to fly back at us.
    Because we have the best resources available, and the airplane is of US manufacture? We have a vested interest in finding out what happened to this airplane so that we can prevent it from happening again in the future.
    Because our administration has important things that they want to divert attention from. Look! Squirrel!
    Because we have the best resources for the job?
    No, it's a US made plane.
    Yes, this is a concern to me too. If these were businesses and not countries, there would be remuneration for expenses incurred. However, we have assets already on patrol in the area, and so it costs little extra to deploy them in the search.
    see above.
    No, it would be nothing like that. We are completely capable and competent to carry out our own investigation. Mozambuique, while an honorable thing to offer, would not be able to contribute meaningfully.
    Again, I'm with you. However, I would point out that we were very much minding our own business from a foreign policy point of view on Dec. 6th 1941. :wink:
     
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    It was a plane made by Boeing in the U.S.A. (Union made ... uh-oh).

    The U.S. has the most experience and the most sophisticated equipment for such a search.

    The White House wants to head off and play down any hints and rumors that it was a Muslim terror attack.

    Following is the most logical, available theory:

    The pilots fought with the Muslim hijackers who commandeered their plane. The Muslims murdered the pilots. One or both Muslims had some flying experience but could not handle or navigate the 777. They got lost and plunged into the ocean.

    It is likely the plane will never be found.
     
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    When I said "non-US Plane" I meant, not owned by a US company, not operated by the USA.

    " If it crashed, we would know for sure that it wasn't being loaded with nukes to fly back at us."

    Why would they be wanting to fly nukes back at us? Maybe bbecause they are sick of us getting involved in all their business constantly.
     
  18. catalinacat

    catalinacat Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You got that exactly right.
     
  19. xAWACr

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    Says you. Hopefully next time it'll be a member of your immediate family and we'll get to see how you feel about it then.
     
  20. EggKiller

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    It's in our National Security interest to know what happened. No countries in that area have the brains to figure it out so we had to go. Pretty simple really.
     
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    Because the plane did not crash. It was stolen. And it's current whereabouts and intended use are unknown.
     

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