The measure of Jewish achievement

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  1. Jason Bourne

    Jason Bourne Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Since this forum seems to be rife with anti-Jewish rhetoric consisting largely of fear based hatredm and supposition I thought that it might be refreshing to offer a thread regarding the achievements of the Jewish people.

    http://www.jewishachievement.com/about/about.html
     
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    The Jews are the ethnic modern relics of the ancient Babylonians, if Moses' explanation of their roots through Abraham are correct. Moses is our only source. Herodotus says nothing at all about them.

    Their modern achievements are astounding and certainly out of proportion to their numbers.

    After centuries of in-fighting with their kinsmen Babylonians, they were subsequently freed by the Persians, who are an Indo-European ethnic group originating out of Aryana, or so Herodotus tells us, as well as that the Europeans are also descendant from the Persians and other Aryans.

    The Hamitic Arabs are part Egyptian and part Babylonian, if Moses is correct, because so he tells us about Ishmael.

    These 3 groups interact now in modern times as Europeans, Arabs, and Jews to various extents.

    As relics of an ancient advanced civilization, it is no big surprise therefore that the Jews have an impressive resume of accomplishments to their credit.

    Having been driven across the Earth due to their uniqueness and also likely due to jealousy and other cultural rivalries, it is also no big surprise that they largely have chosen to reside in one of two major locations -- the USA and Israel.
     
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    judaism is a religion. A JEW is a believer of a religion. That's it!

    It aint a species of mankind

    Very few contest what is jewish because they practically fear, what they cannot claim or understand

    I hate bigots. How about you?

    If one group of religious people told you that they are chosen by god, over you, are they a bigot to you?

    jew aint a people, it's a religious adherant of judaism.

    There is not such thing as a 'jewish people' that is any different that any other human beings.

    If there was a quest of finding the oldest JEWISH population, then ethiopia is the place.

    Dont believe the BS of idiots unless you intend to remain an idiot!

    This thread is a hypocracy dividing human equality.

    If idiots want to believe that jewish adherants are better than another, then you have that right. But to tell others, that jewish believers are better than another is like putting a bulls-eye on their foreheads and making you a subservant.




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    Let's also not forget about Bob Dylan, eh? And Albert Einstein. They have a Jewish background. Oh, and Paul Wellstone. If only he hadn't died in that stupid plane crash!

    Anyway, this seems a very strange sub-forum for this particular thread.
     
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    You did it. Again. You messed up the quoting... Why do you do that? :p
     
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    Any attack on the Jews is an attack on the brain of mankind.

    The Germans might have won the war had they not driven out all its Jewish scientists.

    One of these was Albert Einstein, who convinced FDR that the atomic bomb was feasible.

    What if Albert Einstein had remained a loyal German, and convinced Hitler to build the atomic bomb?

    One atomic bomb on London would have ended the war with a German victory.
     
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    Religion is a tool for justifying the whims of the powerful; for the little people, it does end up doing what you paraphrased.
     
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    Re: OP:
    Oh come on, Infidel! Everybody at my Mosque knows that Allah hates Jews and loves the Muslims (Mohammad said so!) so OBVIOUSLY this clearly fabricated list of "Nobel Prizes", etc. is a Jewish plot to hurt the faith of the loyal Muslims! Allah helps MUSLIMS, and hurts JEWS, see! That's because Muslims PRAY to Allah at least 5 times per day! It's a misprint, because it's probably actually MUSLIMS who have won 29% of the Nobel Prizes since 1950 and the Jews who have only won a tiny handful....unless, well....um, unless Allah isn't real, or, um, unless Mohammad just made up this unverifiable belief system to increase his political, economic (see Qur'an 8:41), and sexual power....like Mormon founder Joseph Smith....hmmmmm....
     
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    An interesting point of view Jason, and I thank you for drawing our attention to this. For myself, and as a result of my interaction with Jewish people (who have been important to me while growing up) I am, in many senses, the opposite of anti-Semitic. Leaving the religious aspects aside, I think that Jewish culture is very supportive of education, and the higher aspects of western culture - music, literature, the performing and pictorial arts, etc. and as such, has a positive influence upon any society in which it finds itself.

    I cannot extend this congratulation to the Jewish (or for that matter - any) religious beliefs. Like every other religion, it is based upon largely self-congratulatory myth and primitive fear of the unknown.

    To my mind, this does not detract from the value of Jewish culture, which, when allied to a commensurately advanced, and accepting, society, results in the remarkable achievements to which you allude.

    It must be remembered, though, that there are no Somali, Afghani, or Angolan Jewish Nobel prize winners to date. Without the educational, technological, and sociological facilities the society concerned provides, just being Jewish is no guarantee of achievement.
     
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    Correct.
    That's why you see so relatively few Muslims Nobel Prize winners, on a per-capita basis....it's because when people emulate an uneducated, illiterate, robber-bandit, warlord, morally bankrupt pedophile who lived 14 centuries ago, not surprisingly, they end up with dysfunctional societies. We're seeing that with the pending Egyptian civil war, the Syrian civil war, the Palestinian/Jew debacle (both religions are to blame), the never-ending war in Afghanistan (Hillary and Barack are failing miserably, because they don't understand Islam), Iran's insane race for nukes, the atrocities in Pakistan, etc.
     
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    they aint bankkrupt because they dont borrow like the swine

    they dont have nukes because they dont use public resources for weapons, like swine

    they dont have jails and robers, cause they shoot the idiots, before they get their own TV show

    they dont have an OJ simpson, because they didnt bred people that way
    pakis have nukes because india has nukes.

    pakis is a muslim country, because israel is a religious state. (paks broke off, during the same period of israels creation)
     

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