The Michael Wolff book on the White House: "Fire and Fury"

Haha, hit 'em with facts and they call you misogynistic or racist.

So typical...

 

There’s still lots of milk in this cash cow.

 

I'm still waiting for @Renee to tell me about all the wonderful things the Clintons did for Haiti.

 

Lol, oh you guys .... your doing it again ! Be careful ! Trying to help you haters.

 

Google..you mean like millions they raised for a hospital that was never built? That has been debunked.
Well at least trump is doing great things for Puerto Rico and they are Americans, (sarcasm alert)

 

I am not calling you a. Misogynist, just ill informed...just the people trump
Loves

 

Actually, there is no requirement that any charity be audited annually.

The Trump Foundation was never audited, but it is was subject of intrest to the New York Attorney General, before Trump packed it up!

 

Once again, as usual, a Trumpster tries to derail a thread on Trump by trying to make it about Clinton.

Same game, different day

You guys have been running this play for over a full year now. It hasn't worked.

Try learning from that experience.

 

I didn't say there was a requirement only that most are especially the big ones.

 

Oh please, even the BBC was raising eyebrows.

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37826098

Trump got PR it's supplies.

It's not his fault that they were a) too lazy to drive the trucks or b) too corrupt to actually distribute them

Would you like me to show you pictures of the freshly showered mayor with her snazzy newly printed "tshirts" standing in front of piles of food and water crying about needing support?

Here's a good one:

 

Critical thinking skills? Are you kidding? I have called out these modern faux libs here time and time again for being driven not by critical thinking but by the emotion of HATE. It consumes them. A critical thinker would have seen that the russia collusion was a ruse from the get to, politically driven. This was the means test, and still is the means test which you so called critical thinkers were shown to be emotional cripples, in the hatred of trump.

Now, with that said, I am not gonna defend trump or what has happened, which was his fault, in the WH. It should have been expected, given who trump is, and his personality. It did not surprise me. And he at 70 years old never held a public office in his life. No experience on how the mafia in DC operates. He was a newborn babe, born into a pack of damned wolves. And even had a soft coup run against him. Surely this has been a nightmarish hell for trump, and if not, he is crazy.

What I am still trying to figure out is why Bannon decided to talk to this Wolf chap, for he surely knew what kind of feller he was. And after deciding to talk to him, why would he bust out trump and his family? If he was actually trying to help trump, this is 180 from help. So, what is his angle on this? IMO, given that I agree with much of what Bannon supports, since I am an FDR Progressive, this leads me to believe he sees trump now as different from the guy who ran, in regards to issue, and promises. He sees trump as being brought into the establishment fold, which people like me and Bannon think are treasonous bastards to the american worker. Which is most people who work for their living. This has to be the reason Bannon turned on Trump. He sees just another treasonous bastard in the WH, along with Obama, Bush Jr. Clinton, and Bush Sr. Economic treason on the People of this nation.

Bannon looks more like an FDR Progressive than anything resembling a conservative. He is not neoliberal nor a neocon, which makes him an enemy to DC, and now to trump, as well as being an enemy to the democrats who are no longer believers in what FDR did and set up. Or, as I call them, faux liberals and faux progressives, and just supporters of this Corporate State.

 

Once again, as usual, a liberal fails to read and comprehend.

I responded to the OP's comment here:

You're right though, we've been doing it for over a year and loooovin it!

Try learning from this.

 

Nope...not even

 

LOL, Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House had its release date moved up to tomorrow (Jan 5) from Jan 9. It will be #1, and a must read, tomorrow. I suspect we will read it to find out just how many different ways the White House staff came up with to call Trump stupid and unfit for office. I wonder what the over / under is......

 

So if I follow along...

You claim NOT to be a Trump supporter but:

Ignore what the FBI,CIA, and NSA say and don't believe that the Russians had any involvement in getting Trump elected

Are providing the "He doesn't know what he's doing" defense as if that's somehow acceptable in someone who holds the most powerful office in the world..

And THEN...you claim that Bannon is akin to a Progressive???

Okayyyyy then...

 

Fair enough; so you're saying it's OK if the Clinton Foundation was simply a pay to play political scheme, as long as it helped some women?

Russia sure gave Bill and Hillary a ton of money, right?

 

You are right. You are not EVEN close. Educate yourself. Trump didn't take any campaign donations until he secured the nomination. The Beast squandered 100's of millions.

 

Right, I supported sanders, and then stein. But, I did call the election for trump, and the proof is on this forum. For unlike many, I understood the last election to be driven by change. It is the economy stupid, as Cueball James Caraville once said. And those factors which have turned the american economic model into one that only serves the top dogs.

While I did not vote for trump, I am an issues driven american. I could not care less about personality, or color, or gender. I see that as utterly superficial and what non serious, personality cult americans are concerned with. Or tribalized partisans. I only care about issues and where the person stands on those issues. And so, if trump addresses illegal and legal immigration in the interest of the american worker, and if he can somehow address slave labor globalism, in the interest of our workers, of course I will support him in that, for afterall, I am an FDR kinda guy. Or, what the dems used to be, before deciding to stop representing working people in order to feed from the banking and MNC slop buckets for campaign financing.

If you do not question the FBI and the others you mentioned, well, obviously you know nothing of these agencies, or their history, or the times they have lied to the american people. In short, one wonders if you can understand exactly how the world operates. Especially when it comes to American Intel. You must not read books? Written by credible, trustworthy, and very intelligent americans? You must not know the history of our own CIA, and how they operate and the things they have done? For if you knew these things, never would you take their word for anything, when they refused to present the evidence for their conclusions.

In that intel report, which first we were told involved 17 intel agencies, but when the truth came out, only involved 3, if you had read it, you would have found zero evidence to back up their opinion. Indeed if you kept reading it, you would have read of their caveat, which was basically an admission of them not having the evidence to back up their OPINION. Yet you trust,. but what about the verify? All that I know is that if you accept anything without evidence, IMO, that takes you out of any serious discussion. Which leaves you as being fit only to be a partisan. Which of course, clearly you are.

So, no, russia didn't change one vote. Trump did not collude with russia to beat hillary. Hell, if Wolfe's book is accurate, trump didn't think he would beat hillary, so why in the hell would he collude to beat her, in an election he did not want to win? LOL See how this works? You cannot have it both ways, if you want to remain logical.

Sure, Bannon when it comes to economic issues, is an FDR Progressive. I know it has been such a long time since the DP stood up for and represented working americans, so it may come as to be quite the surprise to you that once upon a time the DP was the party of FDR and supported what he put into place, when it comes to working people and the middle class. This means your party and my old party, were not slave labor globalists, nor were they open border people, welcoming in illegal labor to hurt working americans. Bannon on these issues is an FDR Progressive. But the modern DP helped to dismantle what FDR and dems created. And this perhaps explains why you do not see Bannon as believing in what the FDR dems once believed in, before they sold out to the elites.

I am not offering up an excuse for trump and his actions, I am simply stating the fact of the matter. The man did not know how politics works, Nor does it seem he knew much about how gov't works. This is because he has only bribed politicians and never been one. Is he up to the challenge, given his total lack of experience and his bombastic egoistical personality? I dunno. Only time will tell. But it is becoming clear to me that he will hardly live up to his campaign promises, just like every other president in recent history. He has already flip flopped on some issues. And I can have this opinion, only because I am not emotionally invested in his presidency the way his emotional driven haters are. These people could not muster one objective thing when it comes to the object of their hate and derision. And because of this ,IMO, their brains are basically useless and moot when it comes to anything about trump. And it is a shame, for there are things they could be challenging, and disagreeing on. Instead of straining out the petty and turning that into a huge issue as the left and MSM have done consistently even refusing to abide by journalistic standards in doing so.

So, I did not vote for the man, but do support him on a couple issues which helped him to beat hillary. For I am only concerned with issues, and my position on issues will generally come down on the FDR Progressive side, which is anathema today to the faux liberal faux progressive, corporate democratic party. And Bannon espoused these Progressive stances, and the fact that the dems here cannot recognize that only shows just how non democratic party the democratic party has become, in large part thanks to the likes of Bill Clinton, who drove me from my party. The party of the average american, the common man died beginning with clinton. And yet Bannon represents that old party when it comes to immigration and slave labor globalism, for the party of FDR were economic nationalists, as all nations are, unless they get bought off by the top one percent.

 

Have fun finding out.

Please don't forget to not keep me informed of your progress.

 

Refuse to look at a link? OMG... this is even worse than I thought!

It means you don't understand how this works. Let me explain it to you.

First and foremost, you make a point. And second, you can use a link to support your point. But the link is secondary. Your argument is first. You should never let a link make a point for you. What an honest debater does is make the point themselves.

I can't believe you need me to explain this to you.

 

Haha, you're becoming quite desperate.

I provide an argument; you ask for proof. I provide it, you refuse to look at the linked proof, and say I need to provide the argument.

Which I do, and then you claim I have no proof...

Are you new at this?

Or simply trying to salvage your dignity at this point?

 

If your intention is to overwhelm us with boredom, I believe you might be succeeding.

No idea why anybody in the world would be interested on how much money the Clintons make.

 

What are you saying? I have asked for no proof because you haven't made any point.

The only "point" you seem to be making is something like "Wolff is a scumbag" or something similar. But I have and would never ask for proof because I don't care.

Prove me wrong. State your point!

Or prove me right by not stating it.

 

Stock trump apologist reply. Remember, they fall into two categories.

1. No you are

2. Nuh uh

Turns out the lardass in chief didn't even want to win. he wanted to golf and spend his time on book/speaking tours duping rubes out of their money Trump U style. Now the failures who voted for trump are faced with the reality that anyone with half a brain knew, the man just wanted fame. He has zero interest in fixing anything. You were duped.

 

Why despite that? Doesn't it bother you that the man you wasted your vote on had no interest in being president? Doesn't it bother you that even his inner circle know him to be an incompetent buffoon incapable of leading anything other than a golf junket? You were literally, repeatedly lied to by this man who couldn't care less about this country and yet the best you can do is cry about Hillary?