The myth of the "vulnerable" gun free zone

A disarmed population is a venerable population which is why your rate of rapes 5% more than the U.S.

Sexual assault

The number of Sexual assault victims recorded by police increased by 2% across Australia, from 25,837 victims in 2017 to 26,312 victims in 2018. (Table 1)

Consistent with previous years, in 2018:

• The majority of Sexual assaults occurred at a residential location (65% or 17,006 victims)
• Most Sexual assault victims were female (84% or 22,097 victims)
• A quarter of all Sexual assault victims were aged between 15 and 19 years (26% or 6,783 victims) (Tables 2 and 3)

The highest rate of Sexual assault victimisation was recorded in the Northern Territory at 147 victims per 100,000 persons. The lowest was Tasmania with 34 victims per 100,000 persons in 2018. (Table 6)

The following states and territories contributed to the national increase in Sexual assault:

• New South Wales (up 394 victims or 4%)
• Western Australia (up 132 victims or 5%)
• Queensland (up 98 victims or 2%)
• South Australia (up 27 victims or 2%)
• Australian Capital Territory (up 6 victims or 2%) (Table 6)

This was the highest number of Sexual assaults recorded since the beginning of the data series in 2010, and was the seventh consecutive year the number of Sexual assault victims reported to police has increased. After accounting for population growth, the victimisation rate also increased from 86 victims of Sexual assault per 100,000 persons in 2010 to 105 victims of Sexual assault per 100,000 persons in 2018. (Table 1)

https://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs...8~Main Features~Victims of Crime, Australia~3

 

A drop in the bucket compared to the defensive uses of firearms which the U.S. CDC estimates is between 500K to 2 million.

Ban firearms and those DGU's will become crime statistics and murders will go up not down.

And take suicides (60%) out of that number and the number becomes considerably lower and proves your narrative like most anti-gun narratives is based on lies and distortions.

 

Was there even a legitimate point in resurrecting this seven year old thread?

 

To highlight stupidity?

 

Wrong. The CDC merely noted that according to surveys the number of DGUs is somewhere in that range. But it is very questionable whether a survey can accurately measure the number of DGUs. Surveys can very easily grossly overestimate the frequency of a rare event. So the true number of DGUs is likely far lower.

 

Such is for the same reason surveys asking individuals if they have ever been victimized through the use of a firearm hold no validity. Just as surveys asking individuals if they own firearms, or if they know individuals who own firearms, hold no validity.

If surveys relating to the defensive use of a firearm cannot be trusted, neither can surveys showing a decline on the ownership of firearms in the united states.

 

Noted and will be used against you next time you use a anti-gun survey to prove a point.

 

"Of the 156 mass shootings that occurred from 2009 to 2016, only 10 percent occurred in so-called 'gun-free zones.' The majority of these shootings—63 percent—occurred in private homes."
https://www.americanprogress.org/is...debunking-gun-lobbys-favorite-talking-points/

A myth parroted and spread by gun apologists has been debunked.

 

Nothing has been debunked, if the shootings meet the criteria of a mass shooting, then they are mass shootings and you have no way to tell if the shootings where or where not in what is classified as a gun free zone.

 

Except for the fact that there has been no debunking demonstrated.

 

A private residence being the location of a mass killing, does not mean it is not a location where private firearms ownership is prohibited. When only the one responsible for committing the killing is armed, for all intents and purposes it is no difference than a mall, school, or any other public venue where firearms are prohibited by law.

 

A large number of areas where mass shooting (by definition) incidents occur are in public housing complex's, either within a residence or outside on the street, but that doesn't matter.

If U.S. Housing and Urban Development is involved and that would be almost 100% of U.S. public housing, the entire area by HUD regulations is a gun free zone, yet the reality is, they are combat zones because of the over the top amount of drug and sex trade that go's on in these areas, coupled with the ripoff's and turf wars.

And a major problem that the anti's fail to understand is, because the area is a gun free zone, the law abiding people who live there, for what ever reason, cannot own a firearm for lawful self defense, this allows the armed gang's to control the turf, in other words, if you are law abiding, when you see something, or are a victim of a crime, you remember nothing, if you want to remain alive.

Sadly that way of living is the anti-gunners goal for everyone in the U.S. proffered under the guise "gun control will make your life safer."

It's a lie, those of them who are thinking and conceiving policies and laws, know in their hearts it's a power grab and has nothing to do with lowering unlawful firearm use, unfortunately, they have too many people, who have no clue when it comes to firearms and crime buying into their schemes hook line and sinker.

The difference between the core and their supporters, is the core has a goal, total elimination of private firearm ownership in the U.S., they fully understand they cannot do it overnight, so they take what they can get in baby steps, many times offering compromises that are not compromising at all.

To them a compromise is "I wanted it all, but for now I will settle for 10% of my goal."

Now the followers may or not have the same goals, many of them are good hearted people, who are just sick to their stomach's (over the media ultra-pushed coverage) of crimes involving firearms, combine that with the propaganda the core push's out to them, they, not knowing anything about firearms or the positive use of firearms, begin to hate guns and slowly they start marching lock-step with the guidance pushed out by the core.

The other followers are paid, in most cases they are people who have been a victim of the criminal misuse of a firearm, in most cases they are approached by an attorney offering to help them out and bring justice where it is needed, all those followers have to do is stay on script and tears help a lot.

The script they run with is well worn, in most cases it's the victim of the shooting was a pillar of the community, everyone loved him/her, the person made everyone happy and always helped out those around the person they are mourning over.

However, if a reporter took the time to do a background search of the so called victim, it would indicate that victim had a multi-arrest and conviction record for many violent crimes going back to that persons teens.

This fact is always over-looked by the core and their followers.

And the paid ones find themselves used purpose and then once usable are cast away as next months victim is being prepped for Prime Time sobbing and reading the script.

 

Why are there more occurrences of mass school shootings in the US than anywhere else?

 

Why have so many foreign nations had fewer firearm-related murders than the united states, even prior to implementing significant firearm-related restrictions?

 

Why did you ask a question in response to my question? Why didn’t you actually answer my question and THEN ask your question? That is typically how a conversation is supposed to go.

 

For the simple reason that the answer provided would relate to blaming the people, as well as the entire human race itself, holding that it is the human race that is the problem in need of being addressed. Out of the entire animal kingdom, it is the human race that demonstrates a compulsive need to wipe itself out of existence, and has devoted its entire existence to that one, single solitary goal.

 

Right, but why are there more mass school shootings in the US than any other country? Other countries are part of the human race you speak of right?

 

And other countries have always had fewer firearm-related homicides than the united states, even prior to implementing their firearm-related restrictions. Hence why the question was presented in the first place.

 

That doesn’t explain why there are more school shootings.

 

That's simple, they are soft targets, I realize it might a tough decision if one wants to on a shooting spree, deciding between shooting up a police station or a school, but I believe most shooters would pick a school..

 

Right, but again, why do these mass school shootings occur more often in the US than in every other county?

 

Because a large segment of society in the U.S. worships violence and lives for instant gratification, and those combined with mood altering drugs makes for a dangerous sometimes violent combination.

 

Why don’t large segments of society in other countries worship violence and live for instant gratification? Is the US the only country with kind altering drugs?

 

Different societies in different parts of the world act differently, all you have to do is look "gun free" UK, where they are seeing an alarming increase in gun related crimes of almost 10,000 per year, when one looks deeper into the issue a lot of the crimes are by immigrants, many of them Muslims hailing from areas that are largely lawless.

No, but the U.S. is by far the most doped up society in the world utilizing both massive amounts of prescribed and massive amounts of illegal medications, mix that with an unstable or troubled person and that person becomes a ticking time bomb.

And our mental health system isn't much more than a pill machine, have a mental problem, the answer is take these and see ya next month, of course next month might be too little too late when the person kills themselves after killing a number of school children.

But of course that's the guns fault, and society go's on with their lives.

 

Knife murders are down a little in the UK because of the pandemic. But knife murders are a popular growing trend in the UK.

btw draw your gun on a knife wielder at 8 or more yards. If they're really good they can get the drop on you from seven yards.