The NEW face of the American Military

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  1. 4Horsemen

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    military moms.jpg

    http://moms.today.msnbc.msn.com/_ne...ast-feeding-in-uniform-despite-criticism?lite


    "By Pamela Sitt
    Is breast-feeding while in uniform conduct unbecoming to a military mom?

    The debate over nursing in public got a new layer recently, when photos taken on an Air Force base began to circulate online. In the series of tasteful professional photos showing beaming moms as they nurse their kids, one jumps out: the photo of two servicewomen with their uniform shirts unbuttoned and hiked up to breast-feed."
     
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    Yeah, I'm not going anywhere near this topic...other than the purpose of the military is to kill people and break their stuff.
    The image of a woman in uniform...nursing an infant... soldier as "nurturer" might be a juxta-position to the "destructor" image better suited for the military culture.

    On the flip side, with these asymmetrical wars politicians are so fond of...the notion of soldier as "nurturer" might help with public relations. Handing out candy seems
    to be part of the tasked mission along with killing bad guys...so nursing an infant might fit in with the overall feminization of military culture.
     
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    Holy (*)(*)(*)(*)...

    I haven't heard that phrase since basic...lol
     
  4. Herkdriver

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    All these distractions like repealing DADT, urinating on cadavers and this photo of nursing while in uniform...
    if you're in the military you should be doing, or preparing to do in peacetime, one of two things...killing people and breaking their stuff or supporting those who do.

    Even the U.S. Navy is playing the "we help people" angle...

    No, at a moment's notice...you kill people or you support those who do.
    If you're not doing so at a given moment, you are preparing to do so...

    I can't believe how PC war fighting has become...folks are in uproar over the photo now...
    it's an unnecessary distraction.
     
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    Really People, Herkdriver, et al,

    What are we discussing?

    (COMMENT)

    I missed something.

    v/r
    R
     
  6. Herkdriver

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    Women in uniform..nursing in public.

    Hence the distraction...it detracts from military protocol and professionalism.

    I have nothing against nursing per se...or women in the military...or infants...
    just not in uniform...and certainly not in public.

    What's been in the news?
    Repealing DADT.
    Urinating on corpses.
    Women nursing in public while in uniform.

    Last time I checked we still have boots on the ground in Afghanistan.

    Focus people...focus; these are peripheral issues to the core function of the military.

    This is still war time...
     
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    I was just commenting on a phrase Herk used...
     
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    Most Americans don't really care about being focused anymore. it's more about what's on sale at the Mall or how to buy something online.

    sheeple primed for the slaughter.
     
  9. Herkdriver

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    I wasn't addressing anyone in particular...just a general rant towards the absurdity of it all.

    A couple airman with their boobs hanging out in public (while in uniform and on a military base) is not something I had to worry about when I was in;
    the current commanders have my sympathies.
     
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    I say just get an ACU blanket and throw it over their shoulder.

    I have nothing against breast feeding. My 2 youngest sons were breast fed. However, their mom always placed a blanket over herself and them for modesty and decency when she was in public.

    I have had dependent moms breastfeed their kids on a MAC flight right next to me, and did not care. But please, at least have the decency to cover up.
     
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    Where and when did you go for basic?
     
  12. Really People?

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    Lackland, 2002
     
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    I thought Lackland was a boy scout summer camp :)
     
  14. cm75

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    Well hell,I was thinking you were alittle older than that! Ft.Benning,Ga. 92-93
     
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    I don't know what it's like to be a parent- how often kids have to feed and what not- so I don't care. I'm not going to judge that, but that is a professional photograph to push a current issue. That is not appropriate.
     
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    Not quite...lol

    *shrug*

    I waited a few years after HS though...
     
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    I think Gov. nailed it. The photos are pushing an issue..."nursing awareness month" which advocates a greater public acceptance of nursing an infant while in public. Posing in uniform infers it's supported by the military as a whole.

    It's not article 15 material, but in the future I hope better judgment is used prior to authorizing a photo to be used for a cause...while wearing the uniform.
     
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    I would have to agree. And if it is determined that this is potentially a "political issue" or "lobying", they could get into trouble. There are very firm and enforced regulations for people who do things like that while in uniform.
     
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    Isn't a grown man sucking on a woman's tit as natural as a newborn? LEGALIZE.
     
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    The OP picture weakens the US Military in the sight of other nations.
     
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    LOL. I think our superiority outweighs how they feel about us. It's not like we launch breast feeding women at their installations from aircraft carriers.
     
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    What?

    It is an article from the Today Show, posted on MSNBC. If you had not pointed it out, I doubt most of us would even have heard of it. I certainly do not care, and I doubt that more then 2 out of 1,000 people around the world care about this at all. And if anything, I think that most areas of the world would be more shocked at the low percentage of children that are breast fed in the United States, as compared to the rest of the world.
     
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    You missed it because you weren't paying attention. the media threw it out there subtley to make sure people like you didn't catch it. or it's unlying meaning.

    Furthermore, you talk about how nobody cares about it, then why did they make it? ask yourself.

    Everything has a meaning and a goal when you put it in pictures. everything.

    This weakens our image to other nations. do you see other nations doing this? NOPE!
     
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    The only thing guys think is.....
    [video=youtube;3WjNdwnvA6I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WjNdwnvA6I[/video]
     
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    Actually, I think it's beyond "distraction", it's getting dangerous. It started when women wanted a bigger role in combat, and continued to this day. The biggest problem we have is that our millitary is being slowly turned into yet another "jobs" type program. The criteria are no longer based on "military strength", but whether or not it lets anyone join the army and do whatever job they want to within the Army. If it hurts unit cohesion, too bad. If it means putting weaker people in positions where not being able to carry as much as a man means dead soldiers, too bad. Even with the pictures, I don't know that such things hadn't happened in the past, but it was dealt with on the field by commanders. The eye even in this was on the combat, not some civillian's sensibilities. They might have punished soldiers who posed with and SS flag, but they wouldn't have risked taking elite snipers off the field. PC is going to kill us. Armies are for fighting, not jobs programs or political arms.
     
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