The new French President vows new Armenia 'genocide law', When Turks will accept it?

The new French President vows new Armenia 'genocide law', When Turks will accept the facts?

BBC

 

Here is the link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18758078

I am surprised as it was thought this was just Sarkosy after a vote. However where you have denial of one genocide leading to you maybe getting a prison sentence I guess it is as well to have all. It is a hard decision. Holocaust denial is not against the law in the UK, provided it is not to stir up hate, but there is such a strong social stigma against it that it is all but is. On the one hand I find it dangerous to say people can only have one view, it cannot be questioned and on the other when I see the holocaust deniers here and guess they could get people to blindly follow, with hate, I think well maybe.

Your link says Turkey wants it done by Historians and that is a good idea, apart from the reality that Turkey does not teach it the truth to her people so that they usually believe it did not happen.

I think Turkey needs to open up her archives and yes, proper investigations need to be presented and Turkey needs to stop denying it! - whether it needs to be a crime anywhere outside Turkey I would not know because I have only heard Turk deniers.

(I think they are scared Armenia will want some land in compensation)

 

Turks want to draw the great slaughter of 1. 5 million Armenians in the papers . how much land got Jews from the Germans ?

 

That wasn't my point. The reason I said that was because a Turk on another site claimed that the Armenians are making up all this stuff about genocide to try to make a claim of land from Turkey.

 

I don't get why it is a crime to deny a historical fact , some deny that the earth is spherical, others deny the heliocentric system ...we all agree that they are idiots but sending them in jail for what they believe is a lunacy.
Armenians do have a claim in 1/3 of what today is Turkey , a very historical and righteous one .

 

do you really think that it can be use as s serious argument?

 

all Armenians?any link that " the Coordinating Council of Armenian Organisations of France (CCAF) is claiming 1/3 of turkey ?

 

Armenians do have a claim in 1/3 of what today is Turkey , [/QUOTE]all Armenians?any link that " the Coordinating Council of Armenian Organisations of France (CCAF) is claiming 1/3 of turkey ?

 

He is probably just did this for his own alterior agenda. It really has nothing to do with the Armenians themselves. We should not forget that Sarkozy is an anti-european semite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z43PcBR_El0

While the treatment the Armenians suffered was horrible, and it is reprehensible that the Turkish government turned a blind eye to the attrocities, it is even more reprehensible, and incompatible with democracy, to try to regulate the liberty of speech. Past history - even that of another country - is still relevant to politics.

 

all Armenians?any link that " the Coordinating Council of Armenian Organisations of France (CCAF) is claiming 1/3 of turkey ?[/QUOTE]

Historical claim

 

Historical claim

[/QUOTE] I ve asked you about the Coordinating Council of Armenian Organisations of France territorial agenda not about a map of the old Armenian kingdoms

 

No idea about them

 

exactly, the territorial climes is nothing else but only Turkish propaganda

 

Good idea! But you do realize opening up archives is what Armenia refuses to do right? That's what makes them deniers, not us. I have partly read your "Turkish deniers" BS in your post but seems like you've been hit by your own weapon in this post.

 

Yes he was right, obviously.

 

Do they seriously claim all of these land? LOL what a joke. I believe they can achieve it... in some (*)(*)(*)(*)ing video game.

 

It's not a propaganda.

The Four T Plan

All of these "genocide" bull(*)(*)(*)(*) is just to achieve more of "Greater Armenia", I doubt Kardashian's offsprings care about history but political propaganda to grab land from all these fairytale. Just **** with your obsession of our country man. You're wasting your time, we will never accept this (*)(*)(*)(*)ing slander and won't be part of this political game.

 

Oh my God... Why Hollande don't pay attention to the subjects of now? The gay marriage, the genoncide law, etc, etc, can wait!
He speak about that only for don't speak about the subjetcs very important who must be resolute now, only for make noise and don't speak about all the problems who he can't resolve... This man will be the worse president of all the V republic, I'm sure ... Poor France...

 

I agree! He recently have been elected and first thing he's doing is to make laws for Armenians? I thought he was president of France, not Armenia.

 

Exactly what I think! That's easy, his programe was just lie and stupid idea who will make the country in bankrupt; he can't realize is programme, so, he is trying to make people think at other thing...
I'm happy to see that Hollande is less and less popular in France; the 52% moron who have vote for him begin to understand.
Because that this man is weak and have no courage, I hope and I think that he will get is resignation very soon. That would be the best thing what he can do for France.

 

The Four T Plan ...you mast be joking , there is no signal evidence than French Armenians want even m2 of the Turkish territory as a compensation

 

Even in Armenian coat of arms they have Ağrı Mountain as their "national symbol"... Go figure.

 

Ararat is a spiritual centrer for all Armenians but still i dont see any connection between those 2 issues

 

Historical claim

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Quite funny this map , and why not us French dont ask to retreive our mainland dating back from Charlemagne ? ^^

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From my point of view historians must be able to do their job quietly on any subjects , Palestine / Israel ,
Armenia / Turkey , Shoah , armenian genocide and try to dig out the truth , so those french laws are rubbish and must not exist .

I dont like that french presidents , chirac , sarkozy , holland , think that they must go to those CRIF meetings and bow respects , there is a french law from 1905 which exist and must be followed by everyone !

http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/elec...f-sarkozy-et-hollande-se-serrent-la-main.html

 

Historians have no power; they can't act. That's the politician who must act.

Sarkozy was right to speak about that; this man was a very great president, as Chirac, I don't understand why you say that you hate them. Sarkozy have speak about this law at the end of his mandate, when he had speak about all France's importants problems and found ideas for solve them, he haven't use this subject as Hollande, for hide the fact that he have no one idea for help the country. Hollande is a coward...