The only reason women have abortions is because they WANT to have a baby in the future

Nope, the process is regulated. She has to use one of the approved methods to give up her child, but she can give up her child. Men should be able to do the same.

 

So she's a slave.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Yup, just like parents are regulated to pay for their kids...

Your premise is that unwanted children should be just allowed to lie in the street and die because no one should be "enslaved" to care for them....that idea is just plain assinine.

Uh, no, there isn't.... and people should be paid for providing that service...it would be stupid to think there'd always be enough volunteers to take care of all the kids some slimeball men haven't the decency or backbone to support..

 

NO, she said women wouldn't be heartless enough to leave the child on a park bench and YOU HAD to CHANGE what SHE said because you have such a flimsy , meaningless "argument".

She NEVER claimed in any way whatsoever that no women give up their kids for adoption.

Twisting and manipulating and "misrepresenting" what other's post means you have NOTHING.

 

Yes..and it is an agonizing decision...they don’t just dump them

 

....he can get custody of the child if he wants.

 

I have you a serious analogy.....sorry if you don’t like analogies
An acorn is to an oak tree
As A zygote is to a ————
I have plenty to say but it goes over your head if you think I am not saying anything

 

Women cannot give up their child if the father wants to care for it.

She can agree that the father has complete custody, but she would still need to pay towards its maintenance, unless the father agreed otherwise and could afford to do so without help from the state.

Both parents have equal rights and responsibilities for their children, unless one or both have been declared unfit.

 

http://www.arhp.org/Publications-an...e-for-Clinicians/choosing/failure-rates-table
Percent a woman will have an unintended pregnancy in 1 year using the following birth control methods (theoretical rate in () )
Spermicide 28% (18%)
condom 18% (2%)
Pill 6% (0.2%)

The first number is not theoretically perfect use, but based on real world use which means that at times the person will use the contraception improperly or will forget or will just not bother to use it. A responsible person will have a failure rate closer to the theoretical value.

If all 3 are used in a "typical" manner, the failure rate is 0.3% over the entire spectrum of use. The theoretical value is 0.0007%. Even worst case (failure rate of 0.3%) would greatly reduce the number of unintended pregnancies and abortions.

Note that an implant is 0.05% because once implanted the "human factor" (forgetting, improper use) is almost completely removed, the woman just has to remember to get checked and have it replaced when required.

 

...and where does it decree that women are obligated to do that?

 

see post 209

 

I saw this above my response, and have to write that you are utterly over the edge. Clearly you think abortion is just another form of birth control with no moral aspect at all, and you even ignore your favourite bleat about medical risk as the medical risk of abortion is far higher than the risk from birth control. Which puts you so far on the extreme that you truly are not worth communicating with, but do deserve sympahy . What tragedy happened in your life to put you in such a pitiable state?

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
...and where does it decree that women are obligated to do that?

AND that is the woman's decision to make and risk to take....why do you think it's yours ? (explanation below)

WoW! You got al that from my post above!!!?? I guess it's plain you have no answer

But I see where you're coming from, those who think they rule what others should do to please them do believe they can read minds , too....it's all delusion.

What horrible occurrence in your life left you thinking you are The Ruler of Everyone Else's Morals and Conduct ?

 

To be honest I really don’t give a damn about why she got pregnant, if she doesn’t want to let a zygote develop, its her body..her choice!

 

Yeah, women just love all the cramping and bleeding with an abortion, that’s why they use it as birth control (sarcasm alert) I wouldn’t call anyone an extremist unless you realize you are

 

Start reading the posts, then respond appropriately if you want a conversation. Otherwise, you get ignored.

 

In other words, you can't face facts ?

 

Oh no....you will ignore me? I can’t bear it..lol. May I suggest you just block my responses ..this way you won’t have to hear what I have to say and say it’s not “an appropriate response “. Sorry, you won’t get the responses you want from me...let me guess you’re a man without a uterus!

 

If you want to post worthless content, then you will be ignored. Do you want to converse on a subject? If so, then you have to contribute. If not, then worthless content suits your want. Its all up to you. Why are you here?

 

Just because you see my posts as worthless, doesn’t mean they are. It is you who believes that women use abortion as birth control. It shows you know nothing about women and what an abortion entails. I am here to oppose your desire to control women’s reproductive freedom

 

1 - Some women do use abortion as birth control. That's just a fact.

2 - 1 have no desire and have never stated a desire to control women's "reproduction freedom".

3 - If your post has no content, then it is worthless.

 

So?

 

Pro-life is feeling good about yourself for doing nothing.

 

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That is determined by actions, not words. I know you have a lot to say about the issue, but what have you actually done?