The Orange Fraud and what he told the Russians in the Oval Office.

'On a dark night at the tail end of last winter, just a month after the inauguration of the new American president, an evening when only a sickle moon hung in the Levantine sky, two Israeli Sikorsky CH-53 helicopters flew low across Jordan and then, staying under the radar, veered north toward the twisting ribbon of shadows that was the Euphrates River. On board, waiting with a professional stillness as they headed into the hostile heart of Syria, were Sayeret Matkal commandos, the Jewish state’s elite counterterrorism force, along with members of the technological unit of the Mossad, its foreign-espionage agency. Their target: an ISIS cell that was racing to get a deadly new weapon thought to have been devised by Ibrahim al-Asiri, the Saudi national who was al-Qaeda’s master bombmaker in Yemen.

It was a covert mission whose details were reconstructed for Vanity Fair by two experts on Israeli intelligence operations. It would lead to the unnerving discovery that ISIS terrorists were working on transforming laptop computers into bombs that could pass undetected through airport security. U.S. Homeland Security officials—quickly followed by British authorities—banned passengers traveling from an accusatory list of Muslim-majority countries from carrying laptops and other portable electronic devices larger than a cell phone on arriving planes. It would not be until four tense months later, as foreign airports began to comply with new, stringent American security directives, that the ban would be lifted on an airport-by-airport basis.

In the secretive corridors of the American espionage community, the Israeli mission was praised by knowledgeable officials as a casebook example of a valued ally’s hard-won field intelligence being put to good, arguably even lifesaving, use.

Yet this triumph would be overshadowed by an astonishing conversation in the Oval Office in May, when an intemperate President Trump revealed details about the classified mission to Russia’s foreign minister, Sergey V. Lavrov, and Sergey I. Kislyak, then Russia’s ambassador to the U.S. Along with the tempest of far-reaching geopolitical consequences that raged as a result of the president’s disclosure, fresh blood was spilled in his long-running combative relationship with the nation’s clandestine services. Israel—as well as America’s other allies—would rethink its willingness to share raw intelligence, and pretty much the entire Free World was left shaking its collective head in bewilderment as it wondered, not for the first time, what was going on with Trump and Russia. (In fact, Trump’s disturbing choice to hand over highly sensitive intelligence to the Russians is now a focus of special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Trump’s relationship with Russia, both before and after the election.) In the hand-wringing aftermath, the entire event became, as is so often the case with spy stories, a tale about trust and betrayal.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/11/trump-intel-slip

Don's minions will no doubt dismiss this, as they have so many other things, as insignificant noise. If Hillary did it, they'd claim it was evidence she can't be trusted with intel without worrying who she would share it with. There'd be calls for congressional investigations, howls about her security clearance, heaps of indignation, scorn, and hyperbolic reactions from right wing media. The willingness to accept Don's breaches of protocol, ethics, common decency, and the law by his followers has become a danger to the country.

 

LOL. Yea, based on a report from the Washington Post. Blum should stick to writing books.

What the hell, his little story reads like he was there the whole time, in every meeting, in the shadows as soldiers came and went.

Who buys this crap?

Regardless, does the President of the United States have the right to disclose any intelligence he sees fit, in order to carry out his objectives?

Yes, or No?

 

If this story is fictitious in any way, then VF is easily led.

I accept that Israeli aircraft fly missions into Syria, but whether this actually took place is questionable. That some are such excellent story tellers comments on the abilities of humans, their engagement with fantasy.

 

Yes, from what I understand classified info becomes unclassified as soon as it is revealed by the prez. But, am I to understand you don't see a problem with the fact he shouldn't have disclosed it? Or that the Israelis were furious that he did? Or that it may lead to other countries failing to share info with the US for fear Don will blurt it out because he doesn't know any better?

Surely you aren't denying the incident took place in the first place. Are you? Has your allegiance to all things Drumpf caused you become that closed off to reality?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ssians-in-oval-office-officials-idUSKCN18B2MX

 

Am I mistaken or didn't you folks go ballistic over questions of security breaches contained in Hillary's e-mails? Can you see the absurd double standard you are applying?

 

Don's minions will no doubt dismiss this, as they have so many other things

 

Didn't the Mulatto President get caught on a hot microphone telling Russian President Dmitri Medvedev he would have more flexibility to negotiate on issues like missile defense after the 2012 election?

 

Well, if Vanity fair says it, who would not trust them.

 

So the justification for Trump dealing with the Russians is that Obama did it first ?

Really ?

 

This was not an act against the Russians. Matter of fact, the Russians and Israelis have excellent relationships.

It is not as if the Russians would inform the ISIS.

This from a Trump enemy site publication.

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-revea...ssion-northern-syria-russian-diplomats-720600

Notice that Israeli acts as if they depend on Newsweek for their top secret briefings inside the Oval office.

 

I see that you are angry that Obama did it. Good news.

 

Was Hillary the person who could declassify information? Was Obama able to declassify? We know Trump has such authority.

 

Obama is a collectivist and gets a total pass for colluding with America's enemies and selling America out. They hate Americans just as much as Putin does.

 

You should to.

It's silly to embrace these wacked out reports, especially when one considers who they track through, and the discredited sources who created them.

Did you read the narrative from Blum?

For example:

"And, no less improbably, Trump seemed not to notice, or feel restrained by, the unfortunate timing of his conversation with Russian officials who were quite possibly co-conspirators in a plot to undermine the U.S. electoral process. Instead, full of a chummy candor, the president turned to his Russian guests and blithely acknowledged the elephant lurking in the room. “I just fired the head of the F.B.I.,” he said, according to a record of the meeting shared with The New York Times."
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I mean come on, is he writing his next novel? Give me a break.

Talk about over the top BS. That's called over selling, and objective people know what that indicates.

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So if Obama didn’t deal with the Russians, Trump has no excuse and is a traitor.

Good. Now show me how Obama’s alleged comment is significant or how he followed up on it.

 

Absolutely not. Trump is no traitor. Of course as president, Obama had friendly dealings with Russia.

I once saw the danger of Russia, in person I might add. But today they are not interested in war. They went to war in Syria only reluctantly. They have our troops on their border. Why defend our having troops that they see as a threat to them by blaming Russia?

 

Notice how they always try to deflect to Obama, The Clintons or The Fake News ....

They know their Boy is going down in History as the biggest Fraud and ****Up in American and World History.

... and the best part is, THEY put him there and **** Stain is all on them for the rest of their pathetic existence.

 

The White House document that contained Mr. Trump’s comments was based on notes taken from inside the Oval Office and has been circulated as the official account of the meeting. So the account of Don's remarks comes straight from the WH account of the conversation. And the summary of the classified Israeli operation Don told the Russians about comes from 2 experts on Israeli intel operations.

To my knowledge there has been no refutation from the WH about Don's remarks to Lavrov and Kislyak or the characterization of the Israeli operation in question. So, not so much "over the top BS" as accurate reporting of the events.

 

Post it.

 

People who trust credible sources do.

Name the policy objective that Trump was aiming for when he casually gave away this piece of intelligence and tell us what we got out of it.

 

And why would they not? Be specific. (you'll just post some vitriol or run away).

 

Awww ... you didn't like the truth ... how surprising

 

You would be well advised to actually read the article linked.

Recall that Trump refused any of his National Security Briefings from the day he became the candidate until Inauguration Day. No other candidate had ever done this before.

He scrupulously avoided meeting with US intelligence officials as a candidate. After all, as we know now, they had a few questions for him.

He also attacked our intelligence community for the entertainmemt of the Russians and his knuckle dragging base. Trying to undermine the credibility of people who you are supposed to rely on makes no sense.

And the distrust the Trump's behavior created is reflected in the CIA's warnings to the Isrealis regarding the suspicious bahavior and untrustworthiness of the President of the United States.

"It was against this reassuring backdrop of recent successes and shared history, an Israeli source told Vanity Fair, that a small group of Mossad officers and other Israeli intelligence officials took their seats in a Langley conference room on a January morning just weeks before the inauguration of Donald Trump. The meeting proceeded uneventfully; updates on a variety of ongoing classified operations were dutifully shared. It was only as the meeting was about to break up that an American spymaster solemnly announced there was one more thing: American intelligence agencies had come to believe that Russian president Vladimir Putin had “leverages of pressure” over Trump, he declared without offering further specifics, according to a report in the Israeli press. Israel, the American officials continued, should “be careful” after January 20—the date of Trump’s inauguration. It was possible that sensitive information shared with the White House and the National Security Council could be leaked to the Russians. A moment later the officials added what many of the Israelis had already deduced: it was reasonable to presume that the Kremlin would share some of what they learned with their ally Iran, Israel’s most dangerous adversary."

 

What did he casually give away? Why don't you post the source notes taken at the meeting.

Thanks.

 

Why would you assume I didn't. Did I not comment on the flowery novella Blum wrote for his target audience?