The progressives' view on free speech supports book burning

The progressives always tell us that they're not against free speech (lol), but that free speech doesn't give you the right to a platform. Basically their worldview is that they have the right to de-platform anyone they don't like, and that doing this somehow doesn't violate freedom of speech.

This made me think : doesn't this worldview explicitly support book burning? A book is a platform to express your ideas. The progressives believe that they can take away any platform they want from you if you oppose progressivism. They also believe that private companies should have the right censor as much ass they want, and book companies are private.

So by taking their views to their logical conclusion, it would be like in the monarchy when you needed consent from the King to publish a book. Google, with their control over the virtual book market, would be the new king.

 

If you want to see what they would do if they had their way, just look in Europe.

There have been numerous threads in here about the U.K., Germany, and several other countries.

 

Utter nonsense. Nobody has a "right" to a platform. That's like saying Granny should get her cute story of her grandkids published by Random House -- it's her right, by god! A book is no more a platform than some guy on a street corner hawking your beliefs. His/her platform is an orange crate. Maybe you can relate to this - Rush Limbaugh has a platform of radio stations that carry his broadcasts. They can jerk him anytime.

 

Sounds like someone got a rejection letter for their Hitler fanfiction.

 

Actually, they do. One specific company has the right to reject a person but if all companies get together and agree on doing the same thing for the same ideological reason then it's no longer a free market, it's a censorship trust, and a breach of free speech.

False equivalence. What the hell does a granny getting rejected by a publisher because nobody cares about her grandson have to do with censorship in the first place? She can start a blog and that blog won't be censored by the host. The same can't be said for someone who opposes progressivism, who will be taken down from the Internet for "hate speech" if they do that.

Same for books that are already published, which progressives can decide to de-platform at any moment.

That's the progressive way to get out of this? A book is not a platform? Lol.

I just love projection. They bring up Hitler everytime they can when it's got nothing to do with the topic, while normal people don't care about him and think he's just dead and buried. They're only showing that they're the true Hitler fans out there. Yeah, I know, you guys think Hitler is some sort of god whose spirit is rising from the grave. You just can't take your mind off Uncle Adolf, you should really celebrate his birthday.

 

He’s from Israel. That country wouldn’t even exist today without Hitler, so he is kind of a God to them in a way. Think of how much they’ve been able to do because of him.

 

I'm not from Israel. I did travel there on business once, but also Turkey, Germany, France, Singapore Mexico, Belgium and lived in the UK. Mostly I've been all over the US to manufacturing and Distribution Centers.

Born and raised in the US, but we'll traveled with a lot of knowledge about AutoID, biomedical eguiptment, and a good deal about automation.

Don't assume just because I'm not a rabid antisemite and I know a bit about how the World really works that I'm an Israeli.

 

Progressivism is taken in such wrong contexts on this forum. We are nowhere close to being fascists, in fact nationalists are closer to fascism than modern day progressives. Speaking as one, I don’t support book burning. Are some propaganda bullshit filled Ann Coulter books good for nothing but toilet paper? Definitely.

I would argue the de-platforming is on those who are part of the “fake news” crowd, the people who consider journalism an enemy. And those are not progressives. You are more likely talking about those people than progressives.

 

Meanwhile, "hate speech" has up to 6 year jail sentences in many European countries where progressives are in power. The Gulags are open.

Only the fringe far right can be legitimately called fascists, while the progressive *mainstream* deserves that label because of their stance on free speech and support of communism and violence. Totally asymmetric.

But the belief that you have the right to deplatform people does support it. Hence my post.

Pure projection. Criticism/opposition is not censorship or deplatforming.