The idea of life beginning at any particular point is silly. The product of reproduction is simply the continuation of life, two living organisms come together, mate, and the living cells from their bodies share genetic information, the code for another organism. This has been an unbroken chain for billions of years. From the very first simple life forms to the complex life forms of today. The idea that life begins at conception (when is that moment anyway? Can you pin a time to your own conception? Don't be silly.) is silly, and without merit. Why not base the premise and conclusion of the abortion issue to cogitative ability? A freshly conceived zygote is nothing but a group of cells. Nothing be a group of multiplying cells. That zygote is not a person, that zygote is not a human being. It lacks a heartbeat, it lacks a nervous system. A new born has possesses those attributes. A fetus a month before birth possesses those attributes. A fetus two months before birth possesses those attributes. I believe you get the point. The longer the pregnancy goes, the more morally questionable abortion becomes. I base my argument on neural activity and cognitive ability. Aborting a non-functioning fetus is benign. Aborting an entity with neural activity and cognitive attributes is not benign and is worthy of consideration beyond "my body my choice".
I completely agree because it has been stated a number of times now that life is circular and ongoing. There is really no end to life in general, just an end to each living things individual life at some point.
Wolverine said, Only to those who do not care about life. That product is you…and me and everyone else on here whose mother allowed them to live. Ever think of it that way? Maybe you don't value your life but I value mine. What was that first cause? What was the beginning? Something can't come from nothing….so what was the something? When is it….why does it matter if the life will be allowed to continue on? You say pinpoint it or it is not relevant. But yet in the abortion debate when some pro-aborts say they are only pro-abortion UNTIL…viability somewhere around ? and ? time. But they can't pinpoint when that time is? If one was abortion based on that criteria shouldn't they know for sure when that exact time is? That time is impossible to pinpoint but it should not matter….the unborn should be allowed to live. Can you pinpoint the time you were viable? Of course you can't. its all irrelevant….the life in the womb should be left alone to live. but for most pro-aborts on here…nothing matters abortion should be legal throughout the entire nine months….kill on demand for any reason….and at any time. That is some kind of power isn't it? You are pro-abortion right? Why are you messing with all of this? For you nothing should matter…..only that the woman can kill at any time and for any reason. So who cares when viability or conception…or cognitive ability happens, right? You say the fetus possesses these……why does this matter? Is there something wrong with abortion? LMAO Cause you say abortion is ok…its a woman's body her right….and now your implying that the woman loses her bodily rights…and is slaved to her human child. LMAO As I said…..some of you pro-aborts are all over the place…you have not figured your own position out yet. I kept at most of these pro-aborts until they finally caved in and admitted that they wanted the option of abortion until the natural delivery of the baby…nine months in the womb. Is there something wrong with abortion? And again…when does that magical time happen? Could you figure out that time with each unique and individual pregnancy? LOL Hell my doctor changed my due date three times before figuring out when I was due. So your saying really that the longer a pregnancy goes….the more rights the woman loses. OMG will the pro-aborts be after you here. LOL Your so (*)(*)(*)(*) sweet ya know. LMAO Croc tears…wow. There must be something wrong with abortion for you to take this position. What is it? That life must represent a human person….the very thing that the pro-choice community does not want examined. Once personhood has been established….abortion then becomes murder. And when you say…that there should be a cut off point when abortion should not be allowed…your walking on thing ice because you can't…tell when that happens. How about taking the high road….from conception the unborn is a human being. Do you even know when the heart starts beating?
Not with pro-aborts like you…not when you want to end life. You are the ones who cut life short. It is nothing but circular to you people. It is cheap.
Just letting you know you have been on my ignore list for a while now church. And this is why. http://www.wikihow.com/Recognize-a-Controlling-Person You fit the entire bill of everything listed here. Time to seek some professional help for your controlling nature. Good day dear.
I sort of agree with this. Although I think "life" begins at conception, it's cellular life, not an actual human being. I read a magazine article several years ago that helped me make a decision on this issue. The premise was that brain functioning in a fetus doesn't begin to resemble human brain functioning until 20 weeks. Therefore, 20 weeks is when a fetus becomes "human." There may be better, more scientific ways to determine at what point we should consider fetuses human enough to be considered a person, but I do think the question is a scientific one, not a religious, ideological, or legal one.
I enjoyed the psychiatric examination. Do you care to address the argument without telling me what I think on the issue?
Since we are picking subjective points in time. Why not determine viability when a person can get a credit card?
Sure it does. It has everything to do with abortion. The debate in this country is about the value between life and lifestyle. What represents that better than a credit card? Post birth abortions are performed by bad parents everyday so why not make it legislatively legal?
That is essentially my argument. To base the issue on cellular life is a bit simple, being that those cells are not consciousness nor do they have the ability to be such. They are not a "human being" as we would commonly consider such an entity. The start of neural activity is a better yard stick to use to determine X, Y, and Z.
Gosh, whatever happened to potential? People get millions based on someone's potential income when they are killed. The same should be true when any life is taken.
Really? You think that not having a kid because it will put the cramps on someone's career is not a lifestyle choice? Happens all the time.
Professional help? Why did you post this if you have not been reading my posts? LMAO Yea right. You could not keep up..and your position is well your standing on shaky ground and you know it. When someone is pro-abortion throughout the entire nine months .like you support, YOU ARE THE ONE WHO NEEDS HELP. And I doubt help would help you. Enough information has been given to you both scientific and with statistics and facts and nothing seems to change your position. As I have said all along this is not an abortion issue solely this is about a persons entire worldview and yours makes me sick. The thought of giving a woman power to kill in the nine month its nauseating. That is what you support. So lie all you want ..put me on ignore .only shows that you can't debate what I have to say. You had to take me off ignore to know what I was saying ah come on come clean. LOL
This thread is not about abortions in the late term, but the border of which abortion becomes morally questionable being dependent on the physically biological structures that allow for neural activity and cognitive ability.
This thread is not about abortions in the late term, but the border of which abortion becomes morally questionable being dependent on the physically biological structures that allow for neural activity and cognitive ability.
