The right’s fear of education: What I learned as a (former) conservative military man

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  1. PeppermintTwist

    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    a couple of things here...

    They will never admit that their religious views are the cause and yet they cheer for a religious fanatic ignorant Betsy Devos who bribed her way into the postion of Secretary of Education. Could it be more blatant?

    The really hypocritical thing is is the these bible thumpers have no handle on what being a good Christian is if one was going to abide by the teachings of their Jesus.

    These naysayers are the ones that drag the USA down into the dregs compared to the rest of the world in education and belief in the sciences. Some fluke of evolution has allowed the survival of individuals that have no clue and hopefully nature will correct itself before they ruin the planet in its entirety.
     
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  2. thinkitout

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    Knowledge is power; ignorance subjects the masses to enslavement. . . . But is it knowledge they fear, or is it truth???

    . . . . Or do they just not want people to learn to think for themselves???. . . . Or is it that a blank mind is easier to program???
     
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    FrankCapua Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am conservative, and I am not religious.

    I want the educational system to teach critical thinking, not indoctrination for either the left or the right. However, currently an awful lot of the US higher education system seems to be bent on leftist indoctrination, and the subjugation of diversity of opinion.
     
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    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All of the above sound applicable. Here's the rub...the very ones that need the education so very badly are the ones that are the most willing to remain the empty vessel in order to be filled up with whatever propaganda, religious hooey and/or fact-free, baseless lies that will be spoon fed to them.
     
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    I have made the connection - the rabid Trump defenders are religious.
    They accept the con-man on faith.
    Religion is completely illogical, so Trump fits right in.
    One doesn't question faith, one just accepts.
    Religion has always been the enemy of education.
    The rabid "christians" like the homophobe Santorum, want a "christian" Sharia Law in the US.
    I certainly do not.
     
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    1) What constitutes "leftist indoctrination"?
    2) What are you basing your opinion on - what experience have you in education?
     
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    1. Documented intolerance of any views but leftist by professors all over the country. Educate yourself on the issue.
    2. Bachelors degree from a State University, MBA from an Ivy League University. Put two sons through college.

    How about you?
     
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    Regardless of your inevitable denial, that is a biased partisan observation.
     
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    FrankCapua Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, it an observation based on experience and actual events.
     
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    Proper education in the dogmatic principles of Christianity should motivate INSPIRED individuals to reject conservative ideology.
     
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    FrankCapua Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You make the mistake of thinking that conservative thought is the same as the religious right. The religious right has been a thorn in the side of real conservative thought for a long time. Not all conservatives are religious.
     
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    And I did not vote for Trump, but to deny the leftist orthodoxy among liberal arts faculties is is either lack of paying attention or willful denial.
     
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    Nother straw man thread from the forum's straw man queen. "Make objections to what's going on in the edu segment of the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex all about some religious kooks then posture against that fallacy." Fails.

    "Education" is an abstraction. You can't get it from sitting in a chair and reading or buy it from a college. One of the greatest LW frauds used to peddle its shoddy higher education wares is that undifferentiated "educational product" in anything from anywhere is the ticket to a good life or part of the American Dream. It isn't, as millions of defrauded kids and parents are finding out and have found out over the last decades. If a private sector company perpetuated this fraudulent advertising campaign and then took $100k-200k apiece from its victims, it would be shut down or go bankrupt immediately, its principals possibly jailed. As part of the protected Complex hegemony, though, the lies flow like a river from our "institutions of higher learning" while the left WAILS at the INJUSTICE of people paying a private sector business like Trump University a measly $5k and not becoming millionaires overnight. You can't cut that kind of hypocrisy with a knife.

    Half or more of the students defrauded by the "college degree myth" would be FAR better off, happier and wealthier in the trades. But that would rob an important segment of the Complex of some of its ill-gotten gains, and do-nothing professors and administrators, people doing the work of 1/5 of a single worker in the private sector, wouldn't be able to make their cushy, undeserved 6 figure salaries.

    So..."How DARE you criticize education, you must be a religious kook or a troglodyte!" Yeah, no one outside the echo chamber is buying, sorry bout that.

    Just another reason they keep losing and losing and losing, will continue to lose.
     
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    Careful. If you're a non religious conservative, you naturally fall into the alt-right / neo-nazi category. Liberals have striven tirelessly (aimlessly) to pidgeon-hole their opponents into simplistic terms easily digested by future public school drop outs. Democratic elitists purposefully relegate their less affluent minority constituencies to voting as their told, rather than thinking. Dems construct "pipelines to prison" (public schools) so that only the DNC elitests can represent themselves as "educated", thus qualified to think for the masses. The Democratic plantation relies upon ignorance. Reading has always been forbidden by slave owners.
     
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    Safe spaces. Intolerance of different opinions. Hatred of western ideology.
     
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    or to paraphrase...

    "I grew up with Archie Bunker, but became the meathead because I preservered and got a useless degree in English composition.
     
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    I'm begining to understand that it's unrealistic to expect the indoctrinated to realize they've been indoctrinated ... you follow? Liberals have mainstreamed their propoganda, and constantly re-enforce the belief that what is abnormal is actually perfectly normal. Boys are girls, entitlements are free, abortions are contraceptives ... It's absolutely astounding.
     
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    That's not what this article is. It's just a good ol' lefty boy slapping the backs of other good ol' lefty boys for being so much better educated and more intelligent than those superstitious conservatives. It's a feel good piece written for a lefty audience, and nothing more.

    Compared to conservative journalism, this is what serious investigative journalism is to an in-flight travel magazine.
     
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    So, even being self-absorbed, at least you're not hypocritical like the religious right.
     
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    Sure sure, I was a Democrat all the way thru the Slick Willie Clintonian era, until I looked around and felt all slimy buddying up with a bunch of do nothing haters that felt entitled to everything everyone else had and simply couldn't grasp the concept that "Working" played a huge factor in how those folks acquired that type of lifestyle ;)

    And yes I was even a generational Bay area Democrat at that! You'd be hard pressed to get any closer to that culture than that :) So in short, they were sick in the head then and from what I can tell from a different vantage point, they're even worse, FAR worse today!
     
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    I agree it's purely conservative bashing, but the gist of my observation is that these "intellectually superior" liberals, actually believe they're "intellectually superior". All because liberal academia instills that belief in them. Conservative students are baited by disparaging subject matter / curriculum, then berated, belittled, and demonized for questioning or disagreeing with the leftist narratives. Liberal students are rewarded, and even praised. Completely oblivious to the sublime. Hypnotized.
     
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    I believe that it is all three and as we can see, it's working four out of ten times.
     
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    Clearly he makes a fair point and from your bio and some of your post claiming extended education after your tour of the Nam it would certainly explain the conflicting attitude of someone that would choose to serve when a great many of these folks and policies you subscribe to today are yesterdays "Flower Children" and their offspring! The blaring common denominator here is logically re-education and a fine 70's vintage of liberal Kool-Aid ;)
     
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    Santorum only wants what Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Franklin, and Lincoln wanted. I don't think that's asking too much.
     
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    They were not Jesus-freaks.
    Santorum and Pence spend WAY too much time obsessing about homosexuals.
     

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