The Rot That Sickened Democrat Party For So Long

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Jeannette, Oct 19, 2019.

  1. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    LMFAO, Rahl you really make me laugh in R/L.. Just so you know, I absolutely knew you wouldn't paste anything from that link ;)
     
  2. rahl

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    So you didn’t read the link I gave you, then you didn’t read the post you quoted? Lol
     
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    Kinda telling that she's parroting RT

    Also pretty funny that Hillary never named Gabbard and Tulsi went OFF...guilty conscience I guess
     
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    She was sec of state her Dept had the top billing once she past it everything from then on was a formality. No one else even has the possibility of investigating the deal.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Or pretty damn obvious so even the dumbest player new who she was talking about.
     
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    Capt Nice Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I guess that'll teach me not to be a smart ass.
     
  7. Thought Criminal

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    Hillary? Is thay you?
     
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    CORRECT! $145 Million just happened to be thrown at the 'Clinton Foundation' (aka the Clinton's money laundering apparatus) by those involved in the Uranium One deal and ol' Slick Willie pocketed $500K in Moscow for giving a speech no one understood. When Hillary lost, all the millions in donations dried up. Must just be a big coincidence!
     
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    Well, yeah! Nothing to see here. What we have to do is focus on the real criminal! Trump!
     
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    Jill Stein is fed up with the Crooked Old Drunk Witch, too.

    Jill Stein Challenges Hillary To Debate After "Russian Asset" Smear
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    "It's past time to give the American people the real debate they deserved in 2016."
     
  11. kiwimac

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    Right-wingers mad that once again the State Department has cleared Hillary of any wrongdoing.
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    That would be interesting. We'd find out who the Russian asset really is. Next up, Biden v Trump debate, to establish who actually held up aid in a quid pro quo move. Joe needn't show up. We have the video.
     
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    Maybe this is a warning to any of them considering a 3rd party race that they might be suicided. :)
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is no doubt Hillary's not winning has caused huge mental problems for her. She has blamed almost everyone and anything for her not winning. Now she is even attacking fellow democrats. One sick woman. Bill needs to cart the old crone off to the Home.
     
  15. Moonglow

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    How much uranium did Hillary sell?
     
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    I Just proved that false.
     
  17. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Donor

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    You're comparing apples and oranges. It's one thing to investigate an opponents wrong doings and the misuse of their position as vice president, and another thing to set up a false dossier to calumniate and discredit your opponent on false evidence.

    What Clinton did is criminal and the mere fact that her followers can't discern the difference between the one and the other, doesn't show them in a very good light.
     
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    Oh they discern the difference.

    Here is where we may be headed once all the facts are in, and several fact finding investigations are under way: Barr, Durham and Howorwitz, perhaps others.

    Ukraine and other Foreign entities DID interfere in the 2016 election, IN A FAILED ATTEMPT TO FIX IT FOR HILLARY. Now if this turns out to have been orchestrated by Obama Officials, who have been driving the investigation of and removal from office of Trump, well Katy Barr The Door, there is going to be holy hell to pay coming down on these folks.

    Dems may be misusing impeachment in yet another failed attempt to obstruct these investigations.

    Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire: Kiev officials are scrambling to make amends with the president-elect after quietly working to boost Clinton.

    Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. They helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.

    The Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race and advanced the narrative that Trump’s campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine’s foe to the east, Russia.

    Politico’s investigation found evidence of Ukrainian government involvement in the race that strains diplomatic protocol dictating that governments refrain from engaging in one another’s elections.

    The Ukrainian antipathy for Trump’s team — and alignment with Clinton’s — can be traced back to late 2013. That’s when the country’s president, Viktor Yanukovych, abruptly backed out of a European Union pact linked to anti-corruption reforms. ​
     
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    Left arm or right arm ?

    One thing I noticed about Tulsi when she's catching waves, she's goofy footed.

    Did anyone else notice it ?

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  20. Jeannette

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    Wanting criminal activity investigated in Ukraine and elsewhere shows a lack of tolerance, which means Trump's sees things in terms or right and wrong and that means he's a criminal and even worse, a fascist.

    Such qualms do not burden Biden and Clinton. As liberals they are kind hearted people and do not differentiate between people be they doctors, murderers, nuns, drug pushers, nurses or even terrorists. They see everyone as being equal - that is unless they're fascists like Trump.


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    Whatever's 'right' is now called 'wrong'
    and soon it'll come, it won't be long
    when what goes 'up' will be the 'down'.
    Then frown they will, when day is night,

    and 'dark' will reign instead of 'light'. - Jeannette
     
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    Do yerself a favor and stick to Kiwi politics. The State Department has no authority to clear anybody of any criminal accusation.
     
  22. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Donor

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    I think that there were always connections between the Democrats and the junta that took control after the coup. I recall when the airliner was shot down, Robert Parry the investigative reporter wrote that big bucks were being passed around Washington by Burisma Holdings to keep the blame on Vladimir Putin.

    Unless I'm mistaken, the protests in Ukraine started around April 2014. Yanukovich belonged to an opposing group of oligarchs/mafia than the ones Nuland and Obama favored. So blaming the coup on corruption was merely an excuse to eliminate one group in favor of those who were willing to work with Obama, Nuland and Biden.

    What I recall is that Yanukovich thought the losses of joining the EU would be something like $30 billion, (I might not be accurate here, I always make mistakes with numbers), while the real amount turned out to be more like $150 billion. What they didn't take into account was Russia's trade deals with Ukraine.


    Putin said there was no way it could keep those deals, since EU goods would be coming in with lower tariffs through Ukraine. Putin tried to speak to the EU so some arrangements could be made, but they refused. I don't know what Merkel's game was, but she asked Putin to be generous. Anyway the EU told Yanukovich they couldn't loan him the money that he needed to carry him over, and he would have to borrow it from the IMF.

    Yanukovich refused the IMF terms since they wanted him to lower the social services 70% and double the price of gas. He felt he couldn't do that to the Ukrainian people. When Yanukovich turned down the EU, Putin forwarded a large sum as a first payment on Ukraine's enormous debt. After the coup, the junta refused to return the money.

    The junta unlike Yanukovich, accepted all the loans of the IMF, and like in Greece, none of the money went to help the people. The difference is that in Greece the money went to pay back the loans, and the rest went to buy military arms from Germany because of Turkey and its threats. In Ukraine though, part of the money disappeared, probably into the pockets of the oligarchs and the rest probably went to buy arms - no doubt from the US.

    The intent of the IMF was the same though, it was to indebt the people so the countries assets could be bought up at a cheap price. I believe the average income today in Ukraine is about $200 a month. -
     
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    We have this idealized self-righteous view of our foreign policy yet when we did deeper we find that it's managed by a bunch of crooks stealing with both fists.

    The other thing that I find stunning when I travel internationally is that people love Americans even while they hate our government, they seem to understand that we have no idea what is really going on, and don't hold us to account for it, which frankly, I don't understand. It is our job to remain informed and hold them accountable.
     
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    Goofy footed? What does that mean? If it means that she can stand on a chunk of fiberglass that's sliding down the side of a wave, then I say, "Goof On, Girl!"
     
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    100% false.

    none of that uranium ever went to Russia
     
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