The Secret Gay Agenda

It's not my fault you can't follow a conversation, even when its written down in front of you.

 

Claiming that you are smarter than you are isn't the same as declaring that you're gay and having homosexual relationships, then growing up and deciding that you were really wrong about that.

 

Not the same as:

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No she was a good friend in college and a facebook friend now.

 

Does she no longer call herself gay? If not, then my answer would be that she made a choice to adopt a different label for her sexual identity, not her orientation. The point being, that the label one chooses doesn't always reflect the orientation. Neither does behavior always reflect orientation. Some men who end up identifying as gay start off identifying as 'bisexual'. Are they just liars? Or are they going through a phase where they haven't yet been completely honest with themselves about their orientation. Similarly, some men who end up identifying as 'straight' and getting married - because it's the thing that society approves - eventually realize what a great mistake they've made in looking to society to define their identity or thinking that heterosexual behavior would change their orientation toward the same sex, and wind up coming out as gay. Same for some lesbians.

Orientation doesn't fit neatly into gay/bi/straight divisions. It lies along a spectrum. Those who lie closer to the middle than the poles may take longer to find an identity that aligns with their "I'm really drawn strongly to a few women; I like more guys than women, but don't connect with them on the same level emotionally, etc." kind of sexuality. Do they go with strength of attraction over quantity? Which one determines their orientation and identity? Maybe it's utopian, but I can't help but wonder how much easier sexuality would be if people were free to express what they really feel without societal condemnation for feelings that do no harm, and without having to slap a label on it. Fall in love with a guy? Be in love with a guy. If it doesn't work out and you later find yourself in love with a woman? Be in love with that woman. Why label it? Find someone that you can commit to and share your life with? Great! Why do we have to call it 'this' or 'that' or 'this & that'?

As others have pointed out, your example is 1) anecdotal, and 2) hearsay. And as another poster said, it's not your experience with your own sexuality, but one someone else is telling you about theirs. You can't actually know what really went on her head back then, nor what's going on in her head now.

And lastly, as other posters have said, it shouldn't make any difference whether or not it's a choice, inborn, or something else. Why does it matter to you?

 

So you experienced her sexuality? It's not that she just told you about it? *shrug* Well if that's the case: 'nuf said.​

 

Maybe not, but is seems we agree that she realized she was wrong about it. That it was an error, not a choice.​

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Claiming the qualification is necessary, that is arbitrary.​

 

According to the definition you cited, it seems to be.

If you want greater clarity though, you might want to compare the verb to the verb. Not the noun.​

 

It's also begging the question.

 

Why is this qualification necessary? Yup. And judicial review has yet to find an answer to it. Well, other than animus.​

 

Thank you, I appreciate that. As for sexual preference not being protected by the Constitution, you have to remember that at one time, the Constitution didn't protect against slavery or allow women to vote. Times change and our values change. It is time for laws against gay marriage go the way of laws against interracial marriage.

 

Amen to that!!

 

...and with that, the thread is over 500 posts.


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