The State Is a Deluded, Dangerous Religion

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  1. BleedingHeadKen

    BleedingHeadKen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A fine example of how Americans treat politics like a football game. There's two sides, and the other side is evil and rotten and your side is good and important. Useful idiots, indeed.
     
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    Libertarians just scream from the bleachers
     
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    One of the fundamental issues is the nature of the medical procedure. If a woman asks her doctor to perform an abortion, and he does so, who has the right to interfere in that decision? If she is prosecuted, can she be compelled to testify against herself? Can the doctor be forced to testify against himself or the woman? In either case, it's demanding that the defendants prove their innocence.
     
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    Government prints what it requires, through its violent police powers, you to use as money. It is not "the money", as if there is nothing else.
     
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    You are free to barter for anything you like. Good luck
     
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    Wouldn't that be every statist, screaming from the bleachers for their "side" of the political aisle? Libertarians are wondering why you all think there's substantial difference between the two teams that presume to rule over you.
     
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    But not free to call it money. Which was my rather simple point that went way, way over your head. Why are you in this thread?
     
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    No statists as you call them are in the game. Libertarians are not...and they just think they would be better at the game if we let them play
     
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    Call it fried green tomatoes if you like. Libertarians get stuck on philosophy.....because it's all they have
     
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    And? Philosophy is what founds movements. At least we have that. All you have is myopic and abject worship of authority. You pray that your glorious and holy rulers will grant you crumbs from the table they build upon your productive efforts. Meanwhile, there is no objective limit to their authority because you can describe no principle by which there ought to be such a limit.
     
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    Pushing a lever and choosing Team A or Team B to be your side isn't "in the game."
     
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    Libertarians are in the game? How exactly? Lol
     
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    Get in the game if you want to change the outcome
     
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    I am pretty certain that Roe V. Wade was based on one issue. Privacy. As one Justice put it, he nor his clerks managed to locate privacy in the Constitution.

    As to testifying against oneself, I suppose it does happen when police talk to suspects.
     
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    That looks to me and more than likely to the entire forum you have no philosophy as to what Government means. At least it helps some of us understand you more. So why do you vote for Democrats?
     
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    I am a democratic socialist for many positions. Many but not all. My position is crystal clear
     
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    That is what I actually meant by the Government does not print money. Technically they man the printing presses yet print no new money that the private bank is not ordering.

    I doubt you understand the Federal Reserve system so it won't be possible to talk to you about this issue.
     
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    I understand the federal reserve system better than you.

    Insult me again and we are thru
     
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    Why did you mock a philosophy then if you admit to owning one?

    I have no clue what you mean by democratic socialist. Hitler alleged he was one but I see Democrats flat denying he was. But he sure ran Germany as one.
     
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    No you do not. Thank you kind lord.
     
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    Show me proof that Hitler ever once used the term democratic socialism to describe his party.

    Let's see it robert
     
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    I give you permission to stop responding to me. Lol
     
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    Of course it has. The US began as a confederacy. America won its independence from Britain as a confederacy. The entire international order works through treaties and leagues that preserve the independence of its members. But decentralized government means freedom and democracy, which you clearly detest, so I can understand your need to distort the historical record.
     
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    Find a modern country that follows your model
     
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    Okay in your system
    And defended the nation and allies from the Japanese Empire, the German Nazi Regime and the Italians the Axis Powers and the internment was unfortunate but after a sneak attack by the Japanese on the United States. How would you without big government protect yourself and others from States which were aggressive say the Axis pick up a hunting rifle and fight of a Panzer Blitz and massive air strikes guess what you would lose.

    Anarchists are idiots they think everyone would play nice people are not all nice and if you have a bunch of monsters with will and in a State and your in a anarchist region without cohesion and a State your going to lose.
     

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