The Trayvon Lesson: TO AVOID LOOKING LIKE A CRIMINAL, DON’T COMMIT A CRIME

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  1. Eighty Deuce

    Eighty Deuce New Member Past Donor

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    This is known as the truth that the liberals cannot come to grips with.

    So libs, when do you admit that the problem here was Trayvon being a thug, who thought he could pound Zimmerman ? When will you admit that black culture is largely FUBAR in the US ? Of all ethnic groups, they are tops in crime, illegitimacy, high-school drop-out rates, welfare, murder by their fellow ethnic brutha's. And the list goes on.

    The failure of liberalism.
     
  2. Rapunzel

    Rapunzel New Member Past Donor

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    Nothing any person with a watt of intelligence doesn't know. Blacks commit the most crimes. They occupy the most jail and prison cells disproportionately to all other races. They also lead in not supporting their children, holding jobs and being basically productive.


    Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled, from 139 to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from 320,000 to 1.39 million.
    Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites. Hispanics are three times more likely.

    But I'm sure it is just because they are profiled.

    If blacks want to get away from this stereotype they need to get off their asses and work, support their families and stay out of trouble. They need to keep their pants up around their waists, stop getting tattoo's all over their bodies, keep the gold out of their teeth. get an education and act like normal human beings. Act like Walter Williams, Thomas Sowell, Dr. Ben Carson...etc.
     
  3. ronnie61

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    MOD EDIT - Rule 3 Fergusson (along with many other urban centers in the US) and the justice Dept. investigation which followed prove beyond any reasonable doubt blacks are much more likely to be pulled over than whites. In Fergusson law enforcement was actually extorting the public (mostly blacks) to fund it's underfunded taxation structure. I tend to believe whites commit crimes, especially drug related crimes equally to blacks. Blacks tend to get charged with more of these crimes because they are pulled over more, and once pulled over more likely to undergo a search. Once convicted of a felony, blacks may as well throw in the towel as they will NOT get a decent job. The failed war on drugs and our Christian white leadership is strictly at fault for the number of black males on welfare. The sad part is as we see blacks are fed up. generally they have lost hope and I don't blame them. It is not hard to see why these oppressed people are taking out their frustrations on cops. They see cops as a large part of who is oppressing them.
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  4. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What you said just might be possible if it was just happening in a random city or two. That blacks are being arrested across the country at high rates either means police nationwide are racists or blacks just commit more crimes. And why do you guys always blame the "failed war on drugs" as the reason for what's going wrong in the black community? Are you implying that giving blacks access to cheap mind altering drugs will solve their problems?
     
  5. katzgar

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    the kid didnt comitt a crime, he was murdered
     
  6. ronnie61

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    I am implying the "war on drugs" has created a welfare state in this country. Any person convicted of a felony in this country will have great difficulty finding a decent job. I am also saying yes, blacks are targeted much more than whites. The odds are not in their favor. From the days of slavery on blacks have never had a fair fight, they have been oppressed, and as we saw in the case of Ferguson extorted against.
    I could care less that a bunch of racists like to huff and puff and show their ignorance, this is America. What scares me however is conversations I have had with black friends are not positive. Of course I don't speak for any of them but what I am hearing is they are fed up. Fed up with the Trayvon's, as well as many other unarmed blacks getting shot and killed by police, fed up with a legal system designed to work against them and in many cases laws designed to hit them with multiple felonies which insure they will NOT get a job and end up on welfare. This nonsense that they are too lazy to work is just that, nonsense. Drug laws are used to target blacks, draw them into the legal system, and disarm them from any ability to fend for themselves or their families. Change these archaic laws and as a society we will see the problem get better, not worse. Until then, for many anarchy is becoming a lot more appealing than trying to enact change through a system that has failed them since the dawn of this nation.
     
  7. Songbird

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    Don't know why you resurrected such an old thread when there are plenty such more recent, many with lots of opinions and links to data.

    That said, your argument contains no links. No support. The facts overwhelm what you assert. The black community is oppressed by the black community. Not by whites. Not by rogue cops. As an example, if you are unaware of Baltimore this year, they are on record pace for murders, the uptick happening after the Freddie Gray riots. The BLM movement has in its founding screed for a pull-back of cops in the black community. The cops pulled back in Baltimore, although not because BLM asked for such, but rather as they were being targeted and harassed beyond what they felt safe. Homicides went up by 50%.

    Close to 250 folks murdered in Baltimore this year. The only one you heard about was Freddie Gray. The only one for which anyone protested was Freddie Gray. And you blame whitey and the cops. Enjoy your morass.
     
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    Again. No stats or links, much less credible ones. More unarmed whites are killed than blacks annually in this country by cops Interacting with a cop is not a function of existing either. It is one of being involved in some level of criminal activity, either as a victim or perp or witness. As blacks commit over half the homicides in this country, and over 40% of all violent crime, that is why they are so often involved with cops.
     
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    You have zero proof of your claims......nice fairy tale.
     
  10. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    but they can make millions doing those things and rapping. check out this kid who was paid a million by the white folk he was 'entertaining' yes, they look very entertained!

    [video=youtube;5kPRq_QY4bo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kPRq_QY4bo[/video]
     
  11. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    stats please, provide evidence thanks.
     
  12. Songbird

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    You yourself have been involved in plenty of threads on this topic with multiple evidence provided, asserting what I say. In this resurrected thread, neither you , nor the other liberal, are worth my effort.
     
  13. PatriotNews

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    Lesson #1 - Dress appropriately.

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  14. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    ok so no evidence then.

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    you dont define what is appropriate.
     
  15. PatriotNews

    PatriotNews Well-Known Member

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    I just did.
     
  16. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    that is the wrong definition.
     
  17. ronnie61

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    Links? I don't need a link to state an opinion. The opinion I stated is valid by it's logic alone.You automatically assume the only interaction a black person would have with a cop is by committing a crime. The DOJ investigation post Ferguson states otherwise. The entire system of justice in Ferguson was extorting the black community. My logic is simple, harsh drug penalties = welfare. When you take away a person's ability to find work, to fend for their family or participate in society do not be surprised when they turn to gangs, harder drugs, burglary, gun violence. What do they have left. Many of these people want to work, no one will hire them
     
  18. Esau

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    yep, they found in a study that ferguson was guilty of systemic racism.
     
  19. ronnie61

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    I think what he is trying to say is "Dress like a white guy"
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Your opinion is bullcrap.
     
  21. Esau

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    yeh i figured that but then i thought the guy he posted looked like Farrakhans guys but then again, appropriate would depend on many circumstance and there is no uniform unless it is a uniform. we are individuals after all.

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    at least he has an opinion, one that is valid as well. stop playing your mary card.
     
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    Intellectual dishonesty at its finest. Do you even want to be serious? Feel free to show up for a job interview in jeans and a hoody and guess what that job pays? Despite exceptions like the entertainment industry....
     
  23. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    what if you are going to the store? suit and tie? the cinema, silk suit?
     
  24. Songbird

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    LOL ... no one said you needed links to state an opinion. Posters need links lest their opinions make them appear as uninformed, if not grossly so .... :)
     
  25. PatriotNews

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    Those aren't thugs. Those are clowns.
     

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