The US is about to set a mass shooting record. Awesome.

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  1. MelshieMaze

    MelshieMaze Well-Known Member

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    LOS ANGELES (AP) — The U.S. is setting a record pace for mass killings in 2023, replaying the horror on a loop roughly once a week so far this year.

    The carnage has taken 88 lives in 17 mass killings over 111 days. Each time, the killers wielded firearms. Only 2009 was marked by as many such tragedies in the same period of time.

    Children at a
    Nashville grade school, gunned down on an ordinary Monday. Farmworkers in Northern California, sprayed with bullets over a workplace grudge. Dancers at a ballroom outside Los Angeles, massacred as they celebrated the Lunar New Year.

    In just the last week, four partygoers were slain and 32 injured in Dadeville, Alabama, when bullets rained down on a Sweet 16 celebration. And a man just released from prison fatally shot four people, including his parents, in Bowdoin, Maine, before opening fire on motorists traveling a busy interstate highway.


    https://apnews.com/article/mass-killings-record-pace-2023-d685a6cd67e0f449f3f9d1d8713d451c


    I think I’ve said this once before in another mass shooting-related thread, but at this point I’m completely off the opinion that it’s not really the guns that are the problem, it’s us as Americans. We’re just inherently violent and it shows.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    well my father went to a prep school-a boarding school that is one of the most prestigious nationally they had a skeet team and rifle team, though practices were short since he attended the school during WWII. he keep his shotgun and rifle in his room as did his team mates. No one got shot. I went to a private day school, the village it was in had both a country club that had many of the students' families as members and the village gun club that many of us belong to. If you were 18 you could shoot at either range unrestricted. so a bunch of us had our shotguns or rifles in our trunk. One boy, whose father was the mayor of a nearby city, had a target handgun that he would practice with at the police range of that other city. No one got shot.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The desire to reduce murder should be enough common ground to work together. Unfortunately, the rights of good people will be attacked, and good people will have to fight for their rights. While good people are fighting among each other, murderers continue to seek soft targets.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    gun banners/ main goal is banning guns as a political weapon and as a facade to cover up their lack of desire to punish real criminals
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sears mail order catalog 60+ years ago. The guns didn’t change, people did.

    Oh, what 2009 has in common with 2023 is Obama and Biden squared.


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    What do some ads for a few .22lrs have to do with anything in the modern gun debate? I don't recall anyone using any gun like this in a mass shooting. And this is coming from someone who probably agrees with you when it comes to assault weapons bans. But it's a silly comparison.
     
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  7. MelshieMaze

    MelshieMaze Well-Known Member

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    I would think any decent human being would want to reduce murder, but no one is seeing the results of that at all, otherwise this wouldn’t be happening.
     
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    When guns were easily available by mail and high school kids had them on gun racks in their trucks parked in the school parking lot, there weren’t the kinds of shootings we see today. People changed and I tend to think it’s because of social media and the news being nothing but doom and gloom every day.
     
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    The ad posted was of some .22s, mostly single shot or bolt action. When have any such guns ever been used or mass shootings? I can only think of one .22 handgun used in a mass shooting in recent history and that's about it.
     
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    Because guns decades ago were easier to get and carry out on the open, yet less people killed one another with them. Guns didn’t change except how they look. But people sure did. Families sure have. And demographics sure have. And now you get a lot more attention when you shoot people. Do the math. Cross reference most mass shooting and what do they have in common?

    Mental illness and unloved. This applies to any murderer.
     
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    How are guns any harder to get now? I can go to Academy right now and buy one or even get one from a neighbor without a background check. What does an old ad for .22s have to do with this?
     
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    Which of those apply to Arbery's murderers?
     
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    What is your solution?
     
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    As long as Leftist DAs keep letting violent criminals walk, the violence will continue.
     
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    From 1957. The guns were always out there but there weren’t mass shootings. If anyone is concerned about overall shooting deaths they should look at who the shooters are and why. Yes, shooting six people in Nashville is horrible, but that’s not even a blip on the screen for St Louis, Detroit, etc. which no one cares to discuss because there’s no political value to it.

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    Put criminals in jail problem solved.
     
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    as you can see-the 200 dollar tax stamp was an attempt to essentially ban all but wealthy people from buying these weapons. `
     
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    that you could buy guns through the mail prior to 1968 and there was no real record keeping
     
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    I. Would go to the Army navy store and by an M1 garand for 15 dollars.
     
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    wow
     
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    I will always wish I had just for the history behind it. Place was amazing all sorts of WWII surplus guns and ammunition. 8mm Mausers, British lee Enfield fastest firing bolt action rifle ever made. Even had some Japanese and Italian stuff. A lot of it still had the bayonet lugs but that was late fifties.
     
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    Except for the fact that the murder has already be committed.
     
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    I have several DCM or CMP Garands and MI Carbines but they cost a lot more than 15 bucks! JFK was an NRA Member-got a really spiffed out Garand from the DCM
     
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    yeah lets put everyone in jail before they commit a crime-that's what good little fascists want.
     
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    I had a friend had one back in the sixties that he'd had customized for deer hunting. They'd managed to lighten by about two pounds and added a rubber but plate to help handle the recoil. The only way you could tell it was an M1 was the receiver.
     
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