The War on Men and Boys: your evidence is requested

The War on Men and Boys

On another forum, it was posited that there is no “war on men and boys”: that the idea of it is BS.

It is a VERY left wing audience there. I once wrote something of biases men face in family court. I was deluged with links to articles stating family courts are fine.

We live with a gynocentric government. Our corporations strongly support Feminism. Our educational institutions have whole, “gender studies” schools in them. If you want not only supports for woman but ammo against men, there is a metric butt ton of it out there.

Example: One person’s link was to an article writing that we know husbands abuse wives, but did you know husbands sometimes abuse their children too!?!?!? And I’m like, “er… 3/8 of innocent spouses murdered by their partners are husbands murdered by wives. Women kill their kids too. Sometimes, it is lousy step father’s that harm the kids: the mom brought this person into the house! And sometime keep the guy AFTER finding out about abuse!” I was flabbergasted that the author seemed oblivious to the reality that there are 2 sides out there, appearing to think there was only 1.

So, I want to try again there but before I do, hoping those who agree that there is a war on men and boys can offer their own links, views, what they think is important.

Your advice is appreciated.

 

Trump is not a real man....

 

You didn't offer any links or evidence of your own, just an anecdotal story about someone you talked to on the internet.

 

Oh please. Overall it’s still a man’s world.

 

EAR WORM!!!!

 

Didn't think it was important as I'm looking for links from other people. I am going to need more data as I'll be fighting up hill.

But, couple of easy ones:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/05/the-war-against-boys/304659/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myth_of_Male_Power

Relative to women?
Economically: Women have and spend more then men.
Women Control the Wealth Women control nearly 60 percent of the wealth in the United States.
https://thequantum.com/financial-facts-for-womens-history-month/
In 2015, that was 52% but we were advised to see this amount grow. Guess They were right. Argh. Can't find that link to Business something.. Weekly from 2015...

Politically: Women make up a majority of qualified voters in the US as they live longer. Argh. Good luck looking up this simple statistic. Men die younger than women and are more likely to lose voting rights as they are more likely to commit crimes. It should not be hard to find this out yet it is. I think that due to reality running counter to the narrative. It isn't easy to find the wealth stat either. Still, found this:
https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/2020/comm/participation-president-election.html



Socially:
Men refer to family courts treatment of men as "Divorce Rape". Example:
Women tend to get sole custody of children (85%) . In Dave's example, he was rich. There was a change of condition so he sought a reduction in child support payments. The court found he's still rich so, no. Come back when the court has bankrupted you. (Same is happening to Bendan Frasier). The wife was rewarded for divorcing him. Had they been married, they would have gone over the family budget due to the change of condition. Divorced? Bankrupt the man. And what you reward you get more of. Women file for no fault divorce some 80% of the time. https://www.divorcesource.com/blog/why-women-file-80-percent-of-divorces/ And they reportedly aren't divorcing abusive men. Just men they're bored with.

 

Men are letting us older men down terribly, most high school and college valedictorians today are female they are by far the majority of college graduates. A very large percentage of younger American males today have degraded sperm incapable of impregnating our female population. They are shooting blanks.

 

It's a man's world (talking US) in that many more men are in congress, who are in charge of proposing and enacting legislation. More men run states as governors. More men run cities as mayors. More men are in leadership positions in business world. Only men have been president. Now, I'm certainly not complaining about this by any means. Just pointing it out.

 

I don't believe it's a man's world, I just believe the roles of men and women have become skewed lately. As a woman, I have the freedom to do and be anything I want as do men. Also, to be honest, as a woman, I do feel that I'd be able to get away with more than some men. I know some won't like that statement, but in my experience, it's true. Men used to be more masculine and women more feminine. Today in this new world of "woke" young people, it seems more young men are fragile little skinny jean wearing boys rather than men, and vice versa for women. I'm glad i'm not younger because I'd have a hard time finding a husband in that group of girly men.

 

As Warren Farrell points out in, "The Myth of Male Power" the woman passenger in the back seat has more power than the chauffeur driving the car. Those men in the positions you reference? They work for women. But those are great and well sought after jobs. But at the other end, women are absent from the worst jobs too. 95% of those in the most dangerous and unpleasant jobs are done by men. Men are 10x as likely to be homeless and more.

 

I'm ready to stand in and put the juice where it will do the most good...

 

And why are men 10x as likely to be homeless? Is it due to poor choices made on their part? I do t know the answer but it can’t be just because they are men. There has to be an underlying reason, right?
We do know men are in more high powered positions than women. That’s a fact.

 

Do you suppose this is a result of their having been groomed to be beta males by their socialist education services? When the culture around you calls you toxic because you are male, do you believe this has an impact?

 

A man knows what he is and what others think is only peripherally interesting.

 

I would point out the number of current initiatives at Socialist institutions starting as early as middle school where the toxicity of "masculinity" is a required course these days. I would point to hiring directives at the major corporations for incentivizing the hiring of minority women over more qualified candidates, and especially men, even minority men. Can you imagine the immediate and deafening backlash should anyone actually queue up Feminist toxicity in public? Perhaps it is time that thought bubble started to percolate.

 

Oh please. If young men are acting a certain way it’s because of their parents. Every one of my friends sons, as well as my son, are dominant in athleticism and/or personality. All are currently in or graduated college and all with business, finance or industrial technology degrees. They all went through the same public education system as everyone else who supposedly is being groomed to be beta.
Not to mention, I have been coaching high school wrestling for 18 years and none of the kids I have ever coached could ever be classified as beta. Stop blaming the teachers and take a look at the parents raising these betas.

 

I'm surprised a lib could distinguish the difference.

 

This right here.

 

The right question to ask is, are there fair and reasonable things we can do, in the name of equity, to reduce these gaps. More women in high office. Fewer homeless men.

Do you remember a campaign to "ban bossy"? That if you call a girl that you smash her spirits and that explain why there are not more women in top positions? What the heck do you think happens to a boy when you tell him 24x7 that he is toxic? If he acts too much like a boy, you drug him?

 

Ha ha ha hes living in your mind 24/7.

 

LOL... this from the guy who weeps at the mention of a stern criticism? This seems like a fascinating bit of fiction though. Perhaps it's just a fantasy that you harbor. Whatever it is, it is super unlikely to be real. I would also point out that lack of parenting pushes the onus to parent on schools. And while the wrestling coach is a fantasy of male virility, the ones I know are mostly gay. Also a fantasy. Young men are taught this day in and day out that the world is dying because of men because men are toxic. So, riddle me this, because you so often espouse the same dogma here, why do you suppose that you'd be credible asserting what you have?

 

Weeps? Haha that’s funny. Clearly all in your head.
Your claim about wrestling coaches is complete bull. Wrestling is not a popular sport therefore the likelihood you’d know any at all let along multiple is very low. Therefore you comment is pure fantasy on your part.
I have never espoused anything relating to men being toxic. In fact, I challenge you to find even one post of mine where I state male behavior is toxic. I’ll be waiting. Heh heh heh.

 

Yes, they aren't related though, just to be clear.

Women are discriminated against on the basis of sex. You know how we know this? We didn't let them vote until AFTER black men could. We had to have the Supreme Court say it was illegal to discriminate on that basis...but arguing the merits for a man who was being denied a tax benefit. So we solve this problem by reinforcing the notion that while one person has a penis and the other a vagina, they can with practice and training do what they want.

As for homelessness, the leading cause there is mental health or a lack there of. We need to treat mental health seriously and put resources into it. That will help get people off the streets regardless of gender.

What have you been told about you is toxic, specifically? Punching and bullying isn't good and whether you are a man or a woman, it's unacceptable behavior. So if that's what you're talking about, no. But if you have other examples, I'm all ears.

 

he is our President sadly, but still not a real man

 

I hope this is not too off-topic, but there is another thread which I believe is somewhat related to the topic in this one:
We need to stop awarding money to rape victims

What seemed like it should have been obvious to me, turned out to be not, for others with feminist inclinations.