The Way of Holiness and the Sacred Hoop by Robert Mendelson

Sorry. You are NOT an expert in communicable disease and present no support from those who actually are experts in this field of medical science.

I'd also point out that your personal experience is one personal experience out of a few BILLION. This is NOT how these factors are examined, and for very clear reason.

Beyond that, we in the US (at least) failed MISERABLY at carrying out the clear recommendations from medical science for more than a YEAR now.

The starting point needs to be getting back to the major findings of those in medical science who study this issue.

This is one of the kinds of problems I called out in my previous post. Ignoring what medical science has found and deciding that some personal behavior is the "real solution" is part of the catagory of thinking that caused 500,000 people to die just in America.

Those people died, because we had too many people, including all the way to our president, who were totally sold on personal guesses and thus rejected medical science.

We also had (and still have) a political movement that equates being a good Republican with recognizing science as a partisan political plot - an equation explicity communicated by significant party representatives.

We did NOT have to allow 500,000 people to die. We did that by purposefully promoting catastrophic levels of ignorance.

 

Good points but frankly my experience was essentially replicated by my wife and her sister and by her mom as well as by several friends who listened to me and began to take MSM on a regular basis since I began to tell people about this stuff more than a decade ago.

All of us experienced pain relief........ what sure seemed like a boosting of our immune response to colds , flue and allergies.......... as well as an over all increase in energy and like Dr. Stanley Meyer wrote about.... detoxification of our cells and what that tends to lead to which is basically decreased INFLAMMATION.

7 out of 8 is actually rather impressive and the one person who could not continue taking MSM just had headaches as a side effect of detoxification that was too severe for her.

More information here:
http://www.msm-info.com/#Detoxification

 

If you are going to be taking this substance i would advise reading what medical science has to say about it. I don't necessarly tout webmd, but they do have an article on it:
https://www.webmd.com/vitamins-and-supplements/msm-methylsulfonylmethane-uses-and-risks

However, this came up in the context of a methodology for determining solutions - how you come to conclusions. And, I absolutely reject the notion that personal experimentation or the advertising of supplement dealers is in ANY WAY adequate. You have no method of controling experiments. You have no method of measuring content. NO study that involves only a few indiviuals would ever pass muster as an actual scientific study.

There are huge volumes of total garbage on "detoxification".

US law on medicine allows the supplement industry to make absolutely unconscionable claims about the junk they sell without requiring ANY level of verification of efficiacy or of analysis related to harm or side effects.

There are known cases of supplements that are so diluted that it is difficult to detect whether the substance is even present, as supplements use absolutely nonsensical "measurement" claims that allow for such practices as filling a vial, emptying the vial, then filling with distilled water (a process which theoretically leaves a trace, but of unknown volume).

Seriously. Supplements are one of the key marketplaces for absolute garbage. It's a many billions of dollars industry involving NO proven value ever being required.

 

But at least I am attempting to tell the truth to the best of my ability to do so and many of the authors of articles such as you quote may be somebody who derives more than fifty percent of their income annually from competitors to the natural and low cost MSM, (that is derived from plants and is vegan grade)...... and has a wide range of positive effects all across the board.

The side effects of detoxification can be annoying but the long term benefits make detoxification very worthwhile in ninety percent of cases or much more.

www.msm-info.com/

 

False.

The CDC is NOT a "competitor".

WHO is NOT a "competitor".

The National Institute for Alergy and Infectious Disease is NOT a "competitor".

There are numerous major journals of medical science that publish studies. They do ot sell medicine, nor do those who do the studies that are published. That's not how science works.

Claiming that medical science must be copared to CRAP supplement companies on the grounds that medical science is a "competitor" is just plain NOT ACCEPTABLE.

The detox industry is pretty much total schlock. It usually doesn't even specify what is being removed. It doesn't include testing for efficacy. it doesn't include consideration of the natural systems for removing unwanted substances from the body.

Alternative medicine (which means medicine that is NOT based on sciece) is one of the largest areas of total BS that exists when it comes to those who make huge sums of money by selling unproven products.

 

Estimates are out there that the various vaccines could bring in a TRILLION dollars in revenue.

A trillion dollars is a lot of revenue!

 

I find if one reads the Gospel of John over and over studying it introspectively.......that person can be complete and ready for salvation. The rest of the Bible will be very informative as far as growth in Christ, but that Gospel will tell you exactly Who Jesus in His own words. From there you do not need Joseph Smith, Jehovah's Witnesses or any other human being who wants to add to, or embellish on our need of Salvation. I say this as a Gentile saved by His Grace. We do not need to become Jewish for that Salvation. Beware of the Judicators that would require that. Beware of the "meta-physical". These are all sidebars to distract from our Savior and He is all we need. There is too much disinformation out there. Rely on Jesus and the things He has told us and the Word that has been saved for His purpose.

 

That revenue goes to several different companies that created a product needed by everyone in the entire world.

In doing so, they used hugely expensive equipment and techniques available to very few, hired teams of very serious scientists and invested large dollars in multiple levels of testing designed to assure safety as well as efficiacy.

They incurred the risk that their full investment would go totally unrewarded, as there was never any guarantee that their product would perform and thus pass the scrutiny of the organizations of experts that certify science based medicine.

There is NO such requirement for any product in the entire world of alternative medicine.

There is NO verification that an alternative medicine product does what is claimsd.

There is NO verification that there is a useful dose of the alternative medicine nostrum in the delivered product.

There is NO verification of safety. And, it IS known that various alternative medicine produts have SERIOUS interactions with science based medicine solutions to serious disease for which there is no alternative edicine solution.

Obviously, there are over the counter products that are also untested. There are lots of vitimins, for example, when few vitimins actually contribute anything of value.

But, I'm mainly objecting to the methodolovy you are touting.

 

Its all about the money!

check ouit ivermectin.

good post!

In vitro studies indicate that MSM inhibits transcriptional activity of nuclear factor kappa-light-chain-enhancer of activated B cells (NF-κB) [85,86] by impeding the translocation into the nucleus while also preventing the degradation of the NF-κB inhibitor [86]. MSM has been shown to alter post-translational modifications including blocking the phosphorylation of the p65 subunit at Serine-536 [87], though it is unclear whether this is a direct or indirect effect. Modifications to subunits such as these contribute heavily to the regulation of the transcriptional activity of NF-κB [88], and thus more details are required to further understand this anti-inflammatory mechanism. Traditionally, the NF-κB pathway is thought of as a pro-inflammatory signaling pathway responsible for the upregulation of genes encoding cytokines, chemokines, and adhesion molecules [89]. The inhibitory effect of MSM on NF-κB results in the downregulation of mRNA for interleukin (IL)-1, IL-6, and tumor necrosis factor-α (TNF-α) in vitro [90,91]. As expected, translational expression of these cytokines is also reduced; furthermore, IL-1 and TNF-α are inhibited in a dose-dependent manner [90].

MSM can also diminish the expression of inducible nitric oxide synthase (iNOS) and cyclooxygenase-2 (COX-2) through suppression of NF-κB; thus lessening the production of vasodilating agents such as nitric oxide (NO) and prostanoids [86]. NO not only modulates vascular tone [92] but also regulates mast cell activation [93]; therefore, MSM may indirectly have an inhibitory role on mast cell mediation of inflammation. With the reduction in cytokines and vasodilating agents, flux and recruitment of immune cells to sites of local inflammation are inhibited.

At the subcellular level, the nucleotide-binding domain, leucine-rich repeat family pyrin domain containing 3 (NLRP3) inflammasome senses cellular stress signals and responds by aiding in the maturation of inflammatory markers [94,95]. MSM negatively affects the expression of the NLRP3 inflammasome by downregulating the NF-κB production of the NLRP3 inflammasome transcript and/or by blocking the activation signal in the form of mitochondrial generated reactive oxygen species (ROS) [90].

 

It seems to me that we are now in a world where the author of this book could become national leader of the USA Democratic Party.......
if the events of the next few weeks are anything at all like what I am expecting?????

Nominations for potential leaders for the Democratic Party.

http://godspeaceplan.org/books-download-page/

 

This is just plain NUTTY.

There are obvious religious differences between Palestinians and Jews.

But, that is NOT the problem. The problem is that Jews have decided that they have some sort of right to bulldoze the homes of Palestinians, steal their water rights, destroy their agriculture, and rule them under a military law enforce by mercenaries hired by Israel and in which Palestinians have NO representation.

In Gaza, Israel operates Gaza as an open air prison - a clear act of war recognized universally.

These are NOT religious acts and they are NOT resolved by genetic testing or whatever. NOTHING gives Israel the right to steal people's lands - REGARDLESS of religion.

NOTHING gives Israel the right to rule people without allowing representation - a key inalienable right.

By ignoring these fundamentals, this "plan" is WORSE than irrelevant, as it attempts to convince people that the fundamental rights of humans can simply be ignored and the monumental atrocities of ethnic cleansing can be justified by the Bible.