There is more than enough evidence uncovered to impeach Joe Biden.

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    I have no problem with the good both sides do, although it has been too long since I have been proud of something either side has done. I have a big problem with both sides failures and inability to own up to them.

    Have you read the legislation you spoke of? I haven’t and I doubt anyone on this forum has. Even if any have I doubt they possess the vast knowledge required to have an informed opinion on the matter. What are the potential unforeseen consequences that this bill may produce? What actual positive impact will it have upon the problem? How many other bills have politicians previously passed to address immigration that have failed to live up to promised expectations? If the bill passes talk to me in a year so we can review the impact the bill has had on the issue. Until then I just cannot get excited about it. Been lied to and let down too many times by both parties to place any faith in either.
     
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    Did Trump read the border security legislation that senators of both parties had painstakingly crafted before he told his flunkies in Congress to kill it because enhanced border security would accrue to the President's benefit?


    No bill is perfect, and progress is never achieved if someone insists on his version of perfection - or fears someone else may be given credit.
     
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    OE BIDEN INTERACTED WITH NEARLY ALL OF HUNTER’S FOREIGN BUSINESS ASSOCIATES.
    This past December, President Biden claimed that he “did not” interact with his family’s foreign business associates. Based on the evidence we have uncovered and witness testimony, Joe Biden: - Dined when he was VP with Russian oligarch, Yelena Baturina, Kazakhstani oligarch, Kenes Rakishev, and Vadym Pozharsky, Burisma’s corporate secretary, at Café Milano as these foreign nationals were collectively paying his son, Hunter Biden, millions of dollars. - Spoke to his son’s foreign business associates by phone over 20 times when he was VP. - Had coffee with Jonathan Li, Hunter’s Chinese associate, and wrote a college letter of recommendation for his daughter when he was VP. - Met with ten CEFC officials, including Chairman Ye Jianming who has ties to CCP intelligence, in early 2017. This is around the time Hunter Biden and his associates received $3 million as a “thank you” for the work they did for CEFC when Joe Biden was vice president.

    https://twitter.com/GOPoversight/status/1757821881908969547

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    The goobers' lies have been exposed, and their sordid caper has collapsed.

    Federal prosecutors have charged a former FBI informant on Thursday with lying to the bureau about corruption allegations against President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden involving the latter’s work in Ukraine...

    Special counsel David Weiss (nominated by Trump) announced on Thursday evening that a federal grand jury had returned an indictment against Alexander Smirnov, a 43-year-old longtime FBI informant with ties to Ukraine, for one count of making false statements to a federal agent and one count of falsifying records in a grand jury investigation...

    Republican officials and right-wing media outlets have spent the last five years claiming that Biden’s actions in Ukraine were corrupt without marshaling even a shred of evidence to prove their allegations... Trump was even impeached in 2019 for pressuring Ukrainian President Volodomyr Zelenskiy to falsely smear Biden as corrupt in advance of the 2020 presidential election...

    [T]he Ukraine corruption allegations fell apart.

     
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    This fiasco continues to blow up in the goobers' kissers.

    Wittingly, unwittingly, or witlessly, the goobers have been the tools of Putin.

     
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    Comer?
    You are confused who's CHS this is..
    Why have Wray and Brad not been arrested and indicted for lying to Congress....
    Where is the DOJ investigation into this?
    This is a "declassified" FBI FD-1023.... this is a FBI highly revered and credible CHS.... with a FBI informant.....while the FBI was has sat on this document for several years.... then the FBI claimed never existed..... and then the FBI claimed it was so sensitive it could only be seen in a SCIF while the FBI has apparently leaked classified information to the news media....
    So where are the FBI investigation of the FBI document that "requires verification." came up with after sitting on it for years and Grassley/Comer uncovering to the public? It is not Comer's CHS, it is the FBI's..... how many other lies has this credible and reliable CHS told that wrecked other cases..
     
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    The goobers' Trump-ordered scheme to concoct pretexts to impeach the President has collapsed.

    MAY 2023: Comer Called Smirnov's Allegations “Credible.”

    JUNE 2023: Comer: Allegations Against Biden Are From “A Credible Informant With Years Of Experience.”


    JUNE 2023: Comer: Allegations Against Biden Are “Based On A Trusted Informant’s Conversations.”

    AUGUST 2023: Comer Called Smirnov “A Credible Human Informant.”


    JANUARY 2024: Comer Said Smirnov Was The FBI’s “Most Respected” Informant.

    Alexander Smirnov was hit with felony charges last week, accused of making false statements and manufacturing false records concerning the Bidens' business dealings in Ukraine. A memo filed in court by the Department of Justice (DOJ) on Tuesday argues that Smirnov should remain behind bars pending his trial due to "extensive foreign ties" that include contact with "Russian intelligence agencies."

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    @Natty Bumpo
    Any Comer action were directly related to Brad and Wray lying to Congress… Wray and Brad should removed and thrown in jail for lying to Congress.
     
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    Your claim that the abashed goobers were set up by Wray (who was appointed FBI Director by Trump, and is charged with nothing) makes no sense, and you have provided no evidence of that.



     
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    Wray and Brad lied to Congress… keep spinning my liberal friend.
     
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    Your desperate attempt at diversion fails.

    The Department of Justice said that Smirnov admitted during interviews that he had met with "officials associated with Russian intelligence" who were "involved in passing a story" about Hunter Biden... Jordan and other Republicans could face consequences if it is found Russian intelligence was the source of the alleged false bribery claims they said justified the impeachment of Biden.

    [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jim-jordan-is-in-deep-trouble/ar-BB1iE6q2]
     
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    ask Raskin

    https://twitter.com/GOPoversight/status/1758590811678167198
     
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    Were the Trump goobers duped, or were they complicit in Putin's scheme?

    A thorough investigation in the interest of national security is demanded,


    Word of the Smirnov dossier, memorialized internally at the FBI as a four-page report, leaked out and it became the white whale of House and Senate Republicans looking to impeach Joe Biden. Sen. CHUCK GRASSLEY (R-Iowa) and Rep. JAMES COMER (R-Ky.) finally got their hands on it last summer.

    It was never fact-checked. None of the exotic Slavic characters it implicated came to testify. None of Smirnov’s LE CARRÉ-like meetings in European locales (Kiev, Vienna, London) were confirmed. No recordings of Joe — “the big guy” in Smirnov’s suspiciously familiar words — ever surfaced. No financial records ever showed any Burisma payments to father or son.

    But Smirnov’s curious tale of Biden family corruption was reported as fact on the right. “Biden $10M bribe file released: Burisma chief said he was ‘coerced’ to pay Joe, ‘stupid’ Hunter in bombshell allegations.” read a NY Post headline. By one count, SEAN HANNITY aired 85 segments about it. KEVIN McCARTHY cited the Smirnov dossier as a reason he was moving forward with impeachment.

    https://www.politico.com/newsletter...e-biden-impeachments-latest-big-blow-00142385

     
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    @Natty Bumpo

    Being it was an FBI CHS being used for 15 years and nothing to do with Comer, who was lied to…..
    Was the FBI duped?
     
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    The goobers' farce has collapsed.

    Fox News co-host Jessica Tarlov mocked House Republicans on Wednesday for their pursuit of impeachment charges against President Biden.

    “This is the path that they’ve chosen to take, and honestly I’m surprised that they have this high of a threshold for humiliation,” Tarlov said during an appearance on the network. “Every witness they have called has decimated their argument.”

    [https://thehill.com/homenews/media/...prised-gop-threshold-humiliation-biden-probe/]
    In stark contrast, the abundance of substantive evidence and corroborative sworn testimony of dozens of Republican witnesses has resulted in 91 felony counts.
     
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    Trump isn't involved in Biden's impeachment. Maybe you haven't noticed.
     
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    You can pretend that if you need to, of course. In any event, the goobers' coup has collapsed.

    Trump in recent months has repeatedly asked “how many” times Republicans plan to impeach the president if they take control of the House, the sources said. He has also, the sources said, asked about what they would do to impeach certain high-ranking Biden administration officials. Trump’s questions have touched on potential timelines for any potential impeachment inquiries, as well as on how much support impeachment has in the Republican conference.

    The former president’s question of “how many” times Republicans aim to impeach Biden may be connected to Trump’s own dubious record: He is the only American president to have been impeached twice, once for attempting to leverage military aid to Ukraine to push the country’s officials to investigate Hunter Biden and a second time for instigating the riot at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...chment-trump-republicans-midterms-1234625755/
     
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    The goobers were eager and willing dupes of Trump's "savvy genius."

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    Separate from the bribe allegation, the legal filing notes that one obvious flaw in Smirnov’s story was an account of a supposed Hunter Biden trip to Kyiv and a stay in a particular hotel — none of which actually happened. The president’s son has, in fact, never been to Ukraine.

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    Even more explosively, the document outlines extensive meetings between Smirnov and figures from the Russian intelligence world. Prosecutors say that during an interview after he had been taken into custody last week, Smirnov “admitted that officials associated with Russian intelligence were involved” in propagating some of his information.

    [https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...e-over-biden-probe-after-russian-revelations/]

     
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    @Natty Bumpo

    ""The president’s son has, in fact, never been to Ukraine."

    Who get's paid millions that has never been to the country and never had any experience in the product?

    And can you explain why Smirnov was paid "mucho deniro" to illegally break the law... for investigative purposes? Seems that is common practice for our own government to break our laws, but now they are paying their own Russian agent to do so using tax payer money...

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    Not fit to stand trial.

    Let that sink in. The president of the United States was found to be unfit to stand trial.

    LOL.
     
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    Were the goobers eager and willing Russian dupes, or did they not know that they were spewing lies calculated to inflict damage on America?

    Rep. Ken Buck (R-Colo.) revealed Wednesday that his Republican colleagues were previously warned that the former FBI informant’s claims at the center of the Hunter Biden probe could not be corroborated.

    “We were warned at the time that we received the document outlining this witness’s testimony. … We were warned that the credibility of this statement was not known,” Buck said...

    “And yet, people, my colleagues went out and talk to the public about how this was credible and how it was damning and how it proved President Biden’s — at the time Vice President Biden’s — complicity in receiving bribes,” he added.

    “It appears to absolutely be false, and to really undercut the nature of the charges. We’ve always been looking for a link between what Hunter Biden received in terms of money and Joe Biden’s activities or Joe Biden receiving money,” Buck explained. “This clearly is not a credible link at this point.”

    Buck responded. “I certainly didn’t have any evidence outside the statement itself that it was credible. And as a prosecutor for 25 years,... I never went to the public until I could prove the reliability of a statement.”


    “It appears to absolutely be false, and to really undercut the nature of the charges. We’ve always been looking for a link between what Hunter Biden received in terms of money and Joe Biden’s activities or Joe Biden receiving money,” Buck explained. “This clearly is not a credible link at this point.”

    ... Buck responded. “I certainly didn’t have any evidence outside the statement itself that it was credible. And as a prosecutor for 25 years, Kaitlan, I never went to the public until I could prove the reliability of a statement.”


    [https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...-informants-biden-claims-not-be-corroborated/]

     
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    Pence and Biden reported they had documents they should not have when they discovered them, did not lie about having them, and did not conspire to conceal them.

    Thus, there was no pretext to prosecute either,
     
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    Biden lied for 7 years.
     
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