There is no need to be aggressively stupid here

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Wolverine, Dec 17, 2012.

  1. dadoalex

    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Reading problems? Or did your knee jerk get in your way?

    Perhaps you should tie something to your knee to keep it out of your face and reread the post.
     
  2. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    All guns are designed to kill as efficiently as possible. The Virginia Tech shooter killed 32 people with a couple of pistols.
     
  3. Craftsman

    Craftsman Banned

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    An AR-15 is many things but a hunting rifle is not one of them, that is unless you happen to be hunting humans and children.
     
  4. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Right, that is my point, is that the AR-15 lacks full auto.

    So it is not "identical" to the M-16 series.
     
  5. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    No I don't think it's ok at all. You are putting words in to my mouth like always. But pistols are used by millions of households for reasonable protection. I'm saying it is a strawman to say that because some sharpshooter can kill a lot of people with a pistol that it means that any type of gun should be allowed to be sold. There is literally no reason those guns should be sold to the public.
     
  6. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Yet, people use it for hunting.

    Just Google "hunting with the AR-15".

    It is free btw.

    Next.
     
  7. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    It does matter if you want to be consistent in your reasoning. You say we are sick because we defend the right of people to own semi-automatic rifles. Well, I say you are just as sick if you defend the right of people to own pistols. Both weapons have been used to murder dozens of innocent people in mass shootings, so why do you hate semi-auto rifles but not semi-auto pistols?
     
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    Most soldiers and Marines are very conservative about spraying ammunition downrange if for no other reason they know who has to carry that ammunition to the point of use.

    In Iraq and Afghanistan you could tell where the US troops and bad guys were by the sound. US troops fire as little as they need to and then go quiet (listening for the bad guys). The bad guys sprayed and prayed then whooped and hollered if they survived. Thus the bad guys are easy to locate and engage or avoid where the US troops are very stealthy.
     
  9. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Sure there are.

    For the same reasons as handguns.
     
  10. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Because it was used to kill 20 children and lodged 3-11 bullets in each of them. Why do you not want to ban it? Just because because also use handguns to kill people?
     
  11. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Not at all, people do not need these types of guns for safety. No illogical comparisons by you will ever convince me otherwise.
     
  12. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Because none of your reasoning so far applies to only AR-15's.

    They only apply to your handgun.

    How are you incapable of understanding this simple point?
     
  13. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wolverine is right except I find it funny when people like you show up and prove him right. They are used for hunting all the time.

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  14. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    What prevents an AR-15 from being for safety?

    Be explicit.
     
  15. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A closed mind is hard to convince but you are entitled to your own erroneous thinking.
     
  16. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Because it was used to kill 20 children within minutes. Why do you want to defend a gun that was used to kill children? That's why I think you are sick people. Normal people would be outraged that a man made weapon was created and used to kill 20 children. But nope, not you guys... you guys care much more about your right to own guns, lol. Unreal!
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    I didn't say it couldn't be used for safety, I said no one needs it for safety.
     
  18. Ethereal

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    Oh, yes, but I thought you were saying that military M16's were categorically fully auto, but only the special forces (as far as I know) actually get the fully auto M4 modifications. I'm just quibbling though, we agree.
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    I wouldn't ever imagine people who defend weapons used to kill children to be individuals who I should be listening to about gun control.
     
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    there is no functional difference between a semi auto handgun and a semi auto rifle. You keep contradicting yourself in your posts. your arguments are self defeating. You have no justification for banning one type of weapon, while you openly admit to owning a functionally identical weapon that you have no wish to ban.
     
  21. dadoalex

    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To achieve all you've spoken to does not require a pistol grip, magazine, or rapid fire capabilities.

    So, back to the question.

    What is the utilitarian purpose of the design.
     
  22. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mean like a bus? Ban buses.
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Because it's a strawman. The guy did not use a handgun, he used an AR-15. I know for a fact that I could not take my handgun and my shotguns and shoot as many shots as someone with an AR-15. This kid was not military trained. He simply brought out an AR-15 and killed tons of children with it. How are you incapable of understanding this simple point?
     
  25. Ethereal

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    It doesn't have to be a "sharpshooter", any amateur can slay people in close quarters with a pistol, as PROVEN by the Virginia Tech shooter who killed 32 people with a couple of pistols.
     

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