This Didn't Age Well! Rachel Maddow's Recent Hospital Ship Prediction Sinks To Fake News Depths

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  1. StillBlue

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    Actually it was the NBA and NCAA who really got the ball rolling. Hat's off to them.
     
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    Are you actually under the impression that the GOP are the only ones talking about China's lies? Surely you can't be serious! :roflol:

    How is the Trump administration downplaying it at the moment? Are you including Dr. Faucci?
     
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    No. It turns out that viruses don't spread because of what someone SAYS. And what is this "random virus" that you refer to?

    If you have evidence which directly links Trump's downplaying rhetoric to corpses being forklifted into 18 wheelers, then I'd love to see it - but I certainly won't hold my breath! :roflol:
     
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    I sourced a something accusing the right wing media, including Fox. I dunno how you can see this as defending them.


    And so he first lied, until he could not.

    No. This is due to Donald not taking charge and refusing to see the virus as it is and downplaying it all over the place. To than claim he aint responsible for anything, while he did accuse Obama for the way he handled the swine flu. So an outbreak is always the fault of the president, unless Donald is the president. When Donald is the president, he gets to say we got everything under controle, until there is no control and than it's they lost control... not we.

    And it's rather simple. If you don't want to be responsible, than leave.
     
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    You're just deflecting now, since you're failing to prove your things with right wing fake news.

    He lied endlessly in the past, and here you are wanting us to forget that all.
    Very petty.
     
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    If somebody has the virus in a group... and the leader says everybody should mingle instead of keep your distance ... and so most end up being infected,... than most certainly the spread of the virus has to do with what somebody said. That's what Donald managed on a massive scale.

    The link is just how I described it in this post. yeah... very classy to think it's hilarious so many people are fork lifted in trucks like unwanted road kill. Pure patriotism.
     
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    Well the title of the video is, "Fox News claims it never called COVID-19 a hoax." So I thought that it was a video defending Fox News, but now I see that it isn't. So you DO agree that MULTIPLE Fox News hosts are guilty of this?

    You think that he was lying? Isn't it more likely that he just didn't have a clue what he was talking about?

    No, federalism IS actually a thing. States have their own powers.

    Hey look, I think that Trump should certainly hold himself to the same standard that he held Obama to, but I don't suspect that he's an honest enough human for that.

    Again, Trump isn't independently responsible. If he was, there would be no more America.
     
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    Is the group leader the only person that they hear from?

    Oh COME ON! You're not that dishonest are you? You know perfectly well that I was laughing at you making the connection, NOT at dead people!
     
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    Yes, like that RADICAL right-wing source, The Washington Post! :roflol:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...3153ac-6a12-11ea-abef-020f086a3fab_story.html

    "In the PAST?" You said, "STILL lying how deadly the disease is."
     
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    Dude... I sourced it is so! lol
    The GOP and right wing media lied to the public.
    What you want from me?

    people were dropping dead like flies all over Italy and China, and here you go like... maybe Donald didn't know.
    Right... very dishonest.

    Donald put the blame on the swine flu outbreak on Obama's shoulders.
    Donald went for a long time with this we got this under control.
    To than.. I'm not part of this we thing, and a president is not responsible.
    Very dishonest and beyond obvious hypocritical.

    Of course he is. He is at the helm. He doesn't need to be there. He can just leave, you know.
     
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    So much for your... you can't spread the virus when somebody says something.
    Fake news from you yet again. And no.. not going into your new goalpost.
    Donald lied. He caused the virus to spread all over.
     
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    Not left or right. Can't see that article. Not going to pay.

    That was... still downplaying it till march the 9th.
    Context, buddy. But I guess you right wingers are keen to take things out of context.
    Very petty.
     
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    For one tiny miscalculation? You're really digging for anything to throw at her!! LOL!!!
     
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    So then surely you think that the Washington Post is an objective source, right?

    What was significant about Match 9?
     
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    What the hell are you talking about? You used the analogy of a group leader, representing The President. However, you did not include another person in your scenario who represents Dr. Faucci for example. Again, Trump is not the only one who speak about the virus! Your analogy was a GIANT FAIL!
     
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    Earlier, you hadn't acknowledged that other Fox hosts - other than Trish Regan - were downplaying it. You asked:
    Obviously fast forward a few days and you yourself sourced it by posting that video. So you acknowledge that many Fox hosts were doing it - and so don't you wonder why they didn't all get fired, just like Trish Regan? Particularly as the others were saying WORSE things than Trish, such as calling it the flu! Trish didn't ONCE call it the flew, focusing PURELY on the Democrats politicising the coronavirus. If Trish got fired for this, then I would be calling Fox a complete JOKE network!

    Why would Trump have seen what was happening in China and believe that the same thing would happen in the US? Literally NOBODY was thinking that it would become like that in the US! Pelosi was telling people to go to Chinatown in the last week of February! But no, TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP! :roflol:

    None of this has anything to do with the fact that federalism is actually a thing and states have their own powers.

    Since when does "at the helm" mean independently responsible? Again, if Trump WAS independently responsible, there would be no more America.
     
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    I'm still not paying for a subscription.

    That's when I know Donald was promoting the idea to not have a lock down anywhere... since up to 70,000 people die from your random flu without a lock down, and (at the time) Corona killed 22... so you know... it's all not that lethal. That's Donald lying. People were dropping dead all over Italy.
     
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    Your argument was that "viruses don't spread because of what someone SAYS (something)". And you just agreed that it can spread when someone says something. You now moved the goal post to... the virus does not spread because of what someone says and somebody says something else. And I call that pathetic. That's claiming the president has no social influence at all if Fauci disagrees with him. That's an insane position. lol
     
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    In which post did I agree that it can spread when someone says something? I'll be surprised if you can find it! :roflol:

    Do you actually think that people trust what Trump says over an EXPERT?
     
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    I'm not ASKING you to purchase a subscription! I'm asking if you think that the Washington Post is an objective source. Do you?

    Okay, so doesn't that mean that he was still downplaying it AFTER March 9?
     
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    I only see me doubting that it is so,.. and YOU were to lame to not source this.
    And not calling something the flu or not is not a criteria to be fired. She made an insane accusation. Hence she had to go.

    In the case of the OP. She said it would take weeks. And it took 10 days. Loads of people make up as if she said it like yesterday when the ship was already there. And that's fake. Do note... NOWHERE in that article does it say when she said that and when the ship arrived.

    Ah so a nobody closed down the travel to China.
    Obviously you're just making it up now.

    Social distancing was placed in March in CA by CA as far as I know. So this is just petty remarks.
    And Pelosi was there to combat racism. People were shunning the Chinese community for being Chinese.

    Donald opted to close down states. But he didn't. He also is able to close interstate travel. Individual states can not. And so... he didn't want people travelling from China to the US with the disease in order to not get it spread in the US. But he's fine that all kinds of sick people from New York go all over the country. The guy is simply not doing crap against the spread.

    Donald is holding Obama responsible that way for the swine flu outbreak. So it's obvious that he is responsible for the Corona outbreak by his own standards.
     
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    There is no point in answering this, since I can not see their articles...

    Could be. I'm not following him on twitter. Point remains he was lying about how deadly the disease was (till march 9). And it's not as if it was unknown how deadly the virus is. People were dropping dead all over Italy and where else. The emphasis is... a lying president about a deadly virus.
     
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    Sorry, didn't you say that the Washington Post is neither left or right?

    Oh, so what you mean is that he was saying this stuff until at least March 9. I got you now. "Till March 9" implies that it ended on that day.
     
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    You admitted that "You used the analogy of a group leader, representing The President."... After numerous post you are not responding to if you agree or disagree. Hence I have to conclude that you're not willing to agree, and so troll around and move goalposts. You're free to dispute that my analogy of a group leader -having a say and so things happen- is incorrect. I do think that's how it works in a chain of command, by the way.

    You go source that Donald has no influence when an expert says something else.... if that's your argument. Otherwise you have no argument and I'll be not bothering with this endlessly way of changing goalposts.
     
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    You're not responding that there is no point to this, since I can't read a word.
    Do note... you're to lame to read an article where you can read plenty.
     

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