This is just getting worse. Drag Queen constests for CHILDREN?

Discussion in 'Civil Rights' started by Arkie, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. Maquiscat

    Maquiscat Well-Known Member

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    The failure of this argument stems from the fact that such fashions (wigs, makeup, high heels) we're not isolated to France in that era, yet not all the countries where such fashion occurred had the nobility fail in such epic fashion. You still have no actual causation proven that it was the wrarweaof these clothing and such that was the cause of the issue. A symptom at best, but even that evidence is fleeting.

    Indeed form follows function. But we can see in a wide varitvarieof older cultures where differences we're more cosmetic then functional. There have been cultures where both men and women wore loin cloths. As noted men have worn gowns and women have worn a variety of pants and other legged bottom wear. Scottish men today still wear kilts which are no different than a wrap around skirt.

    You still have yet to show where there has not been transitioning of a given fashion between males and females. Look at knockers for example. At one point they were women's undergarments. Later on they were outerwear for young boys prior to reaching adulthood. Today they manifest as capris. Sure we have some cosmetic differences between them, but they are all legged bottom wear, with the bottom cuff ended about midway between the knee and ankle.

    Transgenderism is about which gender you identify as, not what sexuality you possess. That said we sexualize both genders. If you don't think body builder competitions are not male "beauty pageants" then you have you head buried quite deeply.
     
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    Not isolated, but it was a time where the court of Versaille was the example in a lot of things for the rest of european courts. I don't say it caused the issue, I said it was a symptom of a nobility who became just a parasite and lost its original function : being warriors. Without this functiosn, nobility became empty and without any sense. Furthermore, I would argue that most monarchies in Europe disappeared, and when they remain, most of the aristocracy often disappeared and the monarchy is symbolic.

    One of the most surprizing change is maybe about blue and pink. Until the 19th century, pink was a male color, it's red, associated with violence, strength, male values, but tempered. Blue was a female color, it was associated with moderation, sweetness. Today, it's the opposite.
    There is things who radically change, yes, some symbols of a gender or another may change, however, like I already said, there is some things who change, but there is consistency. I'm in a travel and let my big book of costumes at home, but I will try to share the reference when I will get back my book. It's a pretty old book (I have only a re print) so you may found most of its content on the web.

    I love beauty pageant, and you misunderstood me. It's beauty pageants for children I consider as the work of the demon (I don't actually believe in demons), as well reality TV show, gangsta rap and any hyper sexualized "music".
    Considering transgenderism, I don't appreciate that. I recognize it as a right of people to do what they want but I can only consider this poorly. One of my main influence is stoicism. And one base of stoicism is to accept reality and focus on what you change, mainly your thoughts and actions. So yes, when a man says it's a woman, I can't understand that, and when a man who is physically a man, has a beard and looks like a man start to verbally attack people because despite he looks like a man, he identify as a non binary ****, I can't accept that.
    If I can't understand men who dress as women (or the opposite), I don't hate them or have anything against for them, I don't like their life choice, but their life is their life and mine is mine, they don't harm me or my family, so I can have the minimum consideration I own to human being who don't harm me or my family.
    But people who start to attack verbally people because they "misgendered" people, I truly hate them, because they want to force their vision of the world or other people, and that's quite an euphemism, they harm people.
     

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