This is what I don't get about the anti-gay crowd

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by Leffe, May 22, 2012.

  1. Johnny-C

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    That about sums it up.
     
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    Might as well drink some gasoline if you believe that.
     
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    For ^this is what heathens do. change sacred practices up in their minds to fit their lifestyles. still don't change the nature of the practice. it's sacred. not meant for whoremongers, homos and heathens. deal with it and find a way to stay together WITHOUT legalizing it for gays.
     
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    Enjoy.
     
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    And hatred is what bigots support; whether justifying their evil through religious beliefs, or promoting abject fear through ignorance. It is reasonably clear for all to see.

    All societies and civilizations change. Those promoting the persecution of homosexual people are detrimental to America.

    Sanctity is for individuals to observe. There are no homosexual people forcing people to observe and act in ways which they would not.

    What is the spiritual character of any person who would throw out the word "homo" in the manner which you did above?

    Stifle your irrational animus... and stick it where it won't contaminate civilization.
     
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    I'm certain from your posts that it bothers you that you can not dictate to the government from your bible.

    If you will check the Constitution, you will see why this is so.

    Your rants still have nothing to do with my rights.
     
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    Truth hurts. I'm not your enemy. just a messenger along the road of life.
     
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    Caligula married his horse. when does the ignorance stop and obedience to GOD begin?

    For Mankind is obviously too ignorant to navigate this world on his own.

    I like how you twist your words up. you started off great...civilations do change, then you tanked, because you may realize that those that change and delve into abject perversion crash hard and fast. history shows this. why didn't you say it?

    Forgive me for I am not as perfect as you. notice I have a little wrinkled green guy smoking herbs as my avatar. I'm not all there. but I am here. get it?
     
  9. Johnny-C

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    And the "horse" consented? (I don't think so.)

    When does some people's ignorance end, and their arrogance of compelling others to believe in THEIR "God" cease?

    Where is YOUR guidance? Show that you have it.

    You would impose your beliefs, thinking that qualifies and justifies the intellectual terrorism you would inflict upon others.

    No, not really. I see that you believe what you do... but that is about it.

    And sorry to tell you, that isn't 'homosexuality'; you may BELIEVE that it is... but that is about as far as it really goes.

    You are out here distorting the truth; that is about it.

    You use the disparaging term "homo", and expect a positive response from another thinking person? Get real.

    Why don't you change you avatar?

    Please, get real.
     
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    Witholding the tax breaks and governmental entitlements of marriage from homosexual couples isnt terrorism. Such a drama queen.
     
  11. Johnny-C

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    Nothing wrong with being 'illustrative' to make a point. If you and others are going to play 'hard ball' against homosexual people using your bigotry, then I and scores of others will do what it takes to fight back.

    Don't expect soft punches. Maybe this fight is more important to the people you're against, than you think.
     
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    Thankfully, I am aware that you do not speak the truth. My true relationship with God gives me the power to ignore those, such as yourself, who would use His name for evil.

    Those I worry about are the people who do not yet have that strength, or knowledge, or maturity to combat your serpent's tongue. My prayers go out to them.
     
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    NO, it's down right nasty bigotry...fueled by hate. Does that make it any better???
     
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    Amen to that!! Great point.
     
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    I know several gay men. The only effect their presence has had on me is by giving me an abundant supply of females to meet and fashion tips haha
     
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    Witholding the tax breaks and governmental entitlements of marriage from gay couples isnt terrorism or bigotry fueled by hate. Its biology. Men and women becoming husband and wife with the unique potential of becoming fathers and mothers to the children they have brought into the world.
     
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    No but it is:
    -Unethical discrimination
    -Social engineering
    -The privileging of a particular group of people
     
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    Marriage has NOTHING to do with biology. The only biologically consistent form of human relationships has been polygamy. Marriage is a social institution that has incorporated close to all forms of partnership including homosexuality over time and space.

    Only if you prescribe to your subjective opinion. In the real world, marriage is a socially institutionalized way to privilege certain actions and discriminate against others. Marriage should have NOTHING to do with government.
     
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    If you are practicing homosexuality you have no relationship to GOD. please show me where GOD approves or your lifestyle.

    Even Jesus condemned it:

    Matthew 19:4-6
    "And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made[a] them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?[c] 6 So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”


    What he is saying here is we are to be male/female unions. and let not mankind separate that idea.

    Homosexuality separates that idea.

    Don't hate the messenger.
     
  20. Johnny-C

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    YOU believe that. Not everyone buys what you've been taught and has been embraced by you as a human being. That is reality.

    Can you show where God approves of YOU as a person? (I'm not really asking; just making an important point.)


    So, you've been taught and believe that's what that means. Fine. You should live by that. It cannot be good, that YOU and so many others take it so literally, that you believe you must IMPOSE your thinking and/or beliefs upon other people.

    Come on... it is apparent that you are a religious person. But God KNOWS that you don't have the right to rule the lives of others (with perhaps the exception of your children).

    That is YOUR belief and interpretation. And surely not all people in this world believe in the Bible exactly as you do. If you think everyone does, then you have ben misled. In ANY case, your 'beliefs' DO NOT give you autonomy over the lives of others. Unless my memory has failed massively... I recall that the CHARACTER which the biblical Jesus exuded by His examples (as a human being), illustrated that you should not (due to 'love') seek to force or coerce anyone to your own thinking. You should instead be setting up YOUR OWN LIFE as a living example.

    If YOU do what is right or worthwhile, then people will see it and be encouraged to be like you. And while that won't always lead to the outcomes you might want or expect, at least you will have done something REAL and POSITIVE in the lives of others... without implementing that infernal, oppressive COMPULSION which so many Christians (and other religious people) are too often recognized for. :(

    No, not really. You have been misled, in my view. Please reconsider, if you would.

    I rebuke the WHOLE notion you've set-off above. It's disgusting.
     
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    Multiple marriges, each and everyone of them between a man and a woman. Man and woman, husband and wife, father and mother. One of each is required because of the dictates of biology.

    Its also a legal institution. Never recognizing homosexual marriages.


    Its hisorical fact, not my opinion
     
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    Precisely the opposite. This push for gay marriage is social engineering designed to win respect from society for gays and some dignity for themselves.
     
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    I find it so interesting, that haters usually fall back on arguments that can be so easily refuted. You would think by now they would have come up with something else.

    But....since procreation has NOTHING to do with a government issued marriage license, your argument has no validity.....as it has never had the millions of thimes people have used it.

    Now, if you want to deal in facts, the FACT IS----there is no reason to deny homosexuals the same marriage benefits of other American citizens.

    Again, to quote the Ninth District Court....Animus/hate...is the only reason.
     
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    No. This push for gay marriage, is people becoming aware that homosexual people are human beings, who deserve meaningful recognition of their relationships by the STATE... the same as countless heterosexual relationships are recognized.

    Of course, you and others may disagree... but that doesn't hand you the right to exercise oppressive autonomy over those who oppose you.
     
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    I know it disturbs your power trip to realize that your words don't effect my realtionship with God in any way. You can't ever effect me.

    All you can do is bring down those around you.
     

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