This new law had to get started somewhere

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  1. Tim15856

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion
    If they didn't make white flags, the French would have no way to surrender.

    What means nothing is what foreigners think of US gun control. It has no affect on you and we don't care what you think.
     
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    Far less than Algerians killed by the French.
     
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    Paltry compared to doctors.

    According to a recent study by Johns Hopkins, more than 250,000 people in the United States die every year because of medical mistakes, making it the third leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.
     
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    Availability of guns has nothing to do with any rise of street gangs. In England they use knives so are knives fueling the rise in street gangs?
     
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    Maybe however the French have us beat hands down when it comes to mass shootings and considering the population ratio between France and the U.S., the chances a French citizen will be killed in a mass shooting is over a 100 times higher.


    Attack Killed Injured


    Charlie Hebdo shooting 12 11


    Goldenberg restaurant attack 6 22


    Marseille bar massacre 10 0


    Monbar Hotel attack 4 1


    Nanterre massacre 8 19


    November 2015 Paris attacks 130 413


    Sofitel massacre 7 0


    2018 Strasbourg attack 5 11

    Total 182 477

    Maybe it's time for France to tighten up their gun laws a bit.
     
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    It's estimated stabbings will exceed 40,000 in 2019, but hey it's a Gun Free Zone so according to the anti-gunners the violence problem is now solved.
     
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    Freedom is messy. Freedom is unsafe.

    The 2nd Amendment is the guarantor of all the other amendments. There was a ban on semi-auto rifles in the US for 10 years beginning in 1994.

    A federal study revealed it had no impact on crime or murder rates.

    It isn't a question of what you want to tolerate.
     
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    This is crazy - as well as throwing the baby out with the bath water. How is a media outlet supposed to show evidence of atrocities committed by Gov't - or some evil group- if it can not show violent content ?
     
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    It has to do with who decides what is a violent video.
    The next day your local polititian will decide any video about immigration is 'violance'.
    The day after, it will be anything that does not allign with his bolshevik party line.
    There goes down the drain your democracy.
    BTW it will happen much quicker than you think.
    So the RED color you used is appropriate.
     
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    So they believe that violence is the result of "monkey see, monkey do"

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    Name one thing Trump has done to suppress free speech:
     
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    He calls out those who do.. oh wait that is not suppressing free speech, sorry my error.
     
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    "I hate (fill in the ethnic group of choice)", is a personal opinion.
    "I hate (fill in the ethnic group of choice) and I think we should all go out and kill them", is hate speech.
    Not complicated really.
     
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    If they want to stop the video while being broadcast thats one thing, but decade long prison sentences for ordinary people who share it on the internet is insane.
     
  14. LafayetteBis

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    True enough, but what if it should not be on the internet (because it is against a law denying the right to publish inflammatory and prejudicial video material) then where is the harm-done? Do you really think anyone on the Internet has the right to both publish AND/OR watch prejudicial rot over the Internet?

    I don't ... to do so simply propagates further the prejudicial garbage. Freedom of speech does not include rancor, hatred or belligerence.

    PS: That is how the Nazis got their start in Germany - and the German nation followed them hook, line and (finally) sinker! It is a supreme idiocy to fight in a war for a government that promotes racial/religious hatred in order to exist and rule.
     
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    High density? Australia has less than 25 million people on the entire continent. NYC alone has over 8 million people.

    Australia has NEVER had the drug and gang issues the US has for a number of political, geographical, and cultural reasons which are beyond the scope of this post. Few countries have. Russia, Brazil, and a few other South American countries possibly have.

    It isn't ethnic diversity that is the issue. There is an violent urban culture in the states that unlike anything you have likely experienced unless you spend a few nights in East St. Louis.
     
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    Very few nations have a culture of violence like that found in the U.S. where criminals, gang bangers and mass murderers are raised up to a pedestal by media with the sick hope doing so will create even more of the same for media to report on and profit from.
     
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    Hmm. Subjective restrictions on citizens rights seems a very dangerous course for any Nation of free people.
     
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    Your rights stop where mine begin.

    That's typically somewhere in the middle of a mixed economy with a variety of peoples - some extra-intelligent and others not so smart.

    Such is life, that is why we have schools. "You can take a horse to water, but you can't make it drink ..."
     
  19. LafayetteBis

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    Only in those countries that do not have a dynamic economy, which is largely due to a stagnant class-structure where people cannot better their lives. They are born poor and they die poor - continually elected feckless politicians who simply take advantage of a higher salary - that they never really earn.

    India is a prime-example. They teach their kids for free up to a post-secondary education, then ship them off to America and Europe where they earn far greater salaries.

    And send the money "home to allow their parents a decent existence ....
     
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    So let's see.

    "Your rights stop where mine begin."
    So if I am in public speaking about something you object to, you have a right to stop me?

    You might want to think about the concept of "logic" when you are thinking you have a point to make.
     
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    It has little to do with dynamic economies and more to do with culture.
     
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    Wrong answer.

    A violent film is any that contain violence. And there is plenty of that, because people want to watch it.

    I can't imagine why - except for the fact that violent films have plots that "move". And that is what captures peoples attention.

    Americans watch more TV statistically than any other nation on earth ...
     
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    Yes, you are correct on that one. Culture is indeed important.

    I live in France and the "yellow-jackets" have been demonstrating every Saturday for the bast 16 weeks. Who are they? Generally disgruntled people who - for various reasons - cannot understand why France is not "doing better".

    They are people of all ages. There is no "one core reason" that the repetitive Saturday demonstrations attract people. The kids do a lot of damage with their unrestrained anger. The older folk are having a difficult time on their pensions. And those in between are suffering an unemployment rate almost double that of the US.

    Americans don't demonstrate for 16 straight weeks in 20 cities around the US, do they? Of course, they haven't a 10% unemployment rate presently - do they. But even when the rate was up to 10%, the demonstrations were not as fervent and frequent as they are in France nowadays.

    So, yes, cultural attitudes are very different. Americans actually like to work. The French accept working as an unfortunate necessity ...
     
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    And um, what does that mean in the overall picture?
     
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    Your last paragraph goes to the bone, to the heart, the core. This is what does separate americans from other cultures, although we have quite a few americans who are like those other cultures who over react, and commit what Ben Franklin spoke so well of. The desire for absolute safety, which is an ideal and does not exist, will cause some minds to give up rights, even those granted by a constitution.

    Having a world that is a reaction to the crazies, the mentally ill, the criminals can at some point be a prison.
     
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