Though Most LGBTQs Vote Democratic, New Poll Shows 45% of Queer Men Backing Trump

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by camp_steveo, Sep 20, 2020.

  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    32,119
    Likes Received:
    17,344
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Any survey that doesn't include women is going to be highly inaccurate.

    Further down the article is said this:

    Recent polling also suggests that most LGBTQ voters will oppose Trump. A June 2020 poll of more than 30,000 registered voters conducted by the technology company Morning Consult found that 53 percent of LGBTQ-identified voters favored Biden and only 20 percent favored Trump.


    That's more like what I'd expect when you include women in the survey.

    I guarantee you that if the Democratic candidate was Sanders, that 53% would be much higher. Gays are historically progressive in their politics

    I just call them "LGBT" because "Q is redundant of G".

    .
     
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2020
    Cosmo and Derideo_Te like this.
  2. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    32,119
    Likes Received:
    17,344
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    Trump was pro liberal at the time when he ran celeb apprentice, and he was trying to curry favor celebs, who are liberal, on the whole.

    Trump has NO core convictions, he'll be anything the circumstance or opportunity requires. Which is why he can easily switch from pro choice to pro life.

    I remember Trump, round about 2004, he was on TV, and said a quick solution to end the national debt would be a 25% wealth tax on the rich. He actually said that.

    Most people are one or the other, and cannot switch so easily.
     
    Cosmo and Derideo_Te like this.
  3. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2016
    Messages:
    48,686
    Likes Received:
    32,420
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Except, Sanders isn't the candidate...

    in any event...The Entire Poll in the OP has been DISCREDITED...

    By the very people who conducted it...

    UPDATE, Sept. 20: As Hornet’s survey results have now been widely reported on, it’s important to note what can and should be extrapolated from this data — or, better yet, what cannot be and what should not be. Hornet’s survey was a voluntary, opt-in survey of 10,000 Hornet users; those users received a one-minute survey in their Hornet inbox. It’s important to acknowledge the obvious inherent biases that come with any opt-in survey, and for that reason, one must be careful in unfairly extrapolating from the data itself.

    It would simply not be proper to extrapolate from an opt-in survey such as this a prediction of voter turnout in the 2020 U.S. election — by the greater LGBTQ community, or by the gay community more specifically. In effect, the only thing truly measured by Hornet’s results are the opinions of those Hornet users who chose to take the survey, not the broader Hornet user base, not gay American men, and most definitely not the broader American LGBTQ community. To infer that from the below data would be flawed.
     
  4. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    32,119
    Likes Received:
    17,344
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Cosmo and Derideo_Te like this.
  5. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2015
    Messages:
    50,653
    Likes Received:
    41,718
    Trophy Points:
    113

    Anyone who supports the utterly UNQUALIFIED and INCOMPETENT wannabe Fascist-in-Chief has NO credibility when it comes to disparaging the actual QUALIFICATIONS and ACHIEVEMENTS of Obama.
     
    Cosmo likes this.
  6. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2015
    Messages:
    50,653
    Likes Received:
    41,718
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Sounds like you are referring to your wannabe Fascist-in-Chief AGAIN!
     
    Cosmo likes this.
  7. Chrizton

    Chrizton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2020
    Messages:
    7,787
    Likes Received:
    3,829
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The courts delivered marriage equality, not the DNC. I suspect that the poll is skewed somewhat, but it stands to reason that gays have issues other than their gayness that concern them.
     
  8. Moolk

    Moolk Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2020
    Messages:
    19,283
    Likes Received:
    14,619
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Hey I hope you are right, we need everyone we can regardless of color, sex, gender preference, etc on our side to beat the violent and authoritarian portion of the left that is becoming so prevalent.

    Personally, I just dont think its happening yet. In the long run I think people will come more and more to the right, but right now the left has successfully made a boogeyman of Trump. It’s hard to see many LGBT who see the left as such staunch allies come over to the right.

    That being said, there is a chance to make me a believer in a couple months haha. I see this next election as a massive indication of the direction our country is going. Are we going to give power to the left and see them attempt this identitarian, authoritarian change to the nation or not?

    I’ve seen a lot of polls claiming Trumps support with gays, blacks, Hispanics is going up. I hope its true, because as soon as they all vote as diversely as white people...dems will cease to exist in their present form. We will see in a couple months.
     
  9. Chrizton

    Chrizton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2020
    Messages:
    7,787
    Likes Received:
    3,829
    Trophy Points:
    113
    A gay rancher may be thinking more about water rules going forward than gay marriage. A gay doctor may be thinking about taxes going forward, not which bathroom a trans person gets to use.
     
  10. Moolk

    Moolk Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2020
    Messages:
    19,283
    Likes Received:
    14,619
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That’s true.

    Mabye I’m just in an area thats some predominately left I’m being overly pessimistic. We will see.
     
    Chrizton likes this.
  11. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2010
    Messages:
    46,383
    Likes Received:
    15,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Watch "UNQUALIFIED and INCOMPETENT" President Trump seat ANOTHER CONSERVATIVE SCOTUS JUSTICE!

    Enjoy! :buggered:
     
  12. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2010
    Messages:
    46,383
    Likes Received:
    15,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I'm referring to a Democratic party voting base :D
     
  13. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2015
    Messages:
    50,653
    Likes Received:
    41,718
    Trophy Points:
    113

    All that the court did was to NULLIFY the evangelical's UNCONSTITUTIONAL "Defense" of Marriage Act that DISCRIMINATED against gays.

    Had the extremist Republicans NOT passed DOMA there would NEVER have been any court decision throwing it OUT as UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

    The courts only REACT to what is brought TO them.

    They do NOT arbitrarily "DELIVER" anything.
     
    Cosmo likes this.
  14. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2015
    Messages:
    50,653
    Likes Received:
    41,718
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yet another ABJECT FAILURE on your part to even attempt to ADDRESS what I ACTUALLY posted.

    Sad!
     
    Cosmo likes this.
  15. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2015
    Messages:
    50,653
    Likes Received:
    41,718
    Trophy Points:
    113

    You are PROJECTING the SHORTCOMINGS of your wannabe Fascist-in-Chief onto others.
     
    Cosmo likes this.
  16. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2010
    Messages:
    46,383
    Likes Received:
    15,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Don't be, my friend. Maybe in 20 or 30 years you too will have a chance to seat a judge of importance :couple_inlove:
     
  17. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2016
    Messages:
    28,162
    Likes Received:
    19,399
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Your entire post is a logical fallacy. If gay people want to marry or carry a gun, the government should not stand in their way. Currently, your party is working to deny second amendment rights as well as more of the fruits of their labor. Disagree with them all you want, but at least make an effort to understand how they feel and see them as individuals.
     
  18. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    110,084
    Likes Received:
    37,786
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You’re right, plenty of gay people are conservative on a number of issues. So how many Openly gay candidates have the gop elected?
     
    Derideo_Te and Cosmo like this.
  19. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2016
    Messages:
    28,162
    Likes Received:
    19,399
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Most are still Democrats or independent, but the number of those who will be voting for Trump is growing and its not because Trump is so wonderful.
     
  20. Chrizton

    Chrizton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2020
    Messages:
    7,787
    Likes Received:
    3,829
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Obergefell wasn't about the DOMA
     
  21. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2015
    Messages:
    50,653
    Likes Received:
    41,718
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Irrelevant quibbling duly noted FTR.
     
    Cosmo likes this.
  22. Chrizton

    Chrizton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2020
    Messages:
    7,787
    Likes Received:
    3,829
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Facts are irrelevant to your agenda is duly noted.
     
  23. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2015
    Messages:
    50,653
    Likes Received:
    41,718
    Trophy Points:
    113
    :roflol:

    Ironic given that YOU are the one with the anti-gay agenda.
     
    Cosmo likes this.
  24. Chrizton

    Chrizton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2020
    Messages:
    7,787
    Likes Received:
    3,829
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You base this false allegation on what exactly?
     

Share This Page