Thoughtless WTC Conclusions

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  1. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    IMO all theories other than the OCT are basically harmless. While it's true that some outlandish theories are strictly intended to try to discredit those who contradict or do not believe the OCT, the only theory that should be addressed and focused on is the most dangerous one, the OCT. The OCT is a criminally fraudulent pretext to commit war crimes and other human rights atrocities and should be exposed for what it is.

    I personally do not ascribe to the nuclear, energy weapons, hologram and no plane theories among others but I'm open to any theory that makes sense. It doesn't mean I will knee jerk endorse it but it does mean I will listen to it. For me the most obvious theory is that the WTC towers were destroyed via controlled demolition. How that was accomplished is a matter for thorough investigation, the objective of the grand jury investigation. That the 3 WTC towers were destroyed in that manner is evident via deductive reasoning alone and there is extremely strong circumstantial evidence that supports it as well.

    1. There is only one way a steel frame high rise can be fully destroyed and exhibit all (or the vast majority of) the characteristics of a near perfect and successful controlled demolition of a steel frame high rise. And that is a controlled demolition. Failed control demolitions have shown that they cannot fully destroy structures similarly to the WTC towers.

    2. No legitimate scientific study has proven that the 3 WTC towers were fully destroyed by planes, damage, fire or a combination. The NIST study of all 3 WTC towers is a proven fraud.

    3. No experiment or computer model has ever been developed that can show that any natural cause can duplicate the consequences of a near perfect controlled demolition.

    4. There were two office fire experiments of steel framed structures that have proven that fires alone cannot duplicate the consequences of a near perfect controlled demolition or even cause any kind of demolition.

    5. There have been at least 40 steel frame high rise infernos in history that have not duplicated the consequences of a near perfect controlled demolition or even caused any kind of demolition. One was hit by rockets on multiple occasions and suffered fires and is in use today (the Usce Tower in Belgrade). Another is the 1975 fire in the North Tower that seriously affected 10 floors.

    Taking all the above into consideration and given the evidence, the least likely cause of the destruction of the 3 WTC towers on 9/11 is planes, damage, fire or a combination and the most likely cause is controlled demolition, especially given that these 3 occurred on the same day.

    Note that nothing above is proof of controlled demolition but it is absolute proof that the controlled demolition of the 3 WTC towers on 9/11 must be thoroughly and legitimately scientifically, forensically and criminally investigated as demanded by the current grand jury petition.
     
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  2. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    There is NO PLANE in your video, this is what a 757 fly past looks like:



    I am not interested in someone stretching their imagination into the next universe. Shadow blots are not planes. Sorry there is no plane in your video, there IS a plane in mine.
     
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  3. Scott

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    It's a little out-of-focus but there's definitely an object there.

    What about all of the footage of the plane hitting the south tower?

    18 Views of "Plane Impact" in South Tower | 9/11 World Trade Center [HD DOWNLOAD]



    Are you saying that this is all footage of the same hologram? Was there a hologram in the footage of the South Tower and no hologram in the footage of the North Tower?
     
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  4. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Once AGAIN, I am NOT TALKING ABOUT WTC2 whats the reason no one can address WTC1?

    Think maybe because we can see the out of focus birds flying around just fine and jimmy dandy but not a 757?

    [​IMG]

    Could that be the problem?

    Obviously an ANFO fueled invisible stealth jet too!

    I see no plane where I should see a huge plane, I see nothing but a smudge on the lens.
     
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  5. Scott

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    Put it on full-screen. It's quite clear.


    (1:05 time mark)
     
  6. Kokomojojo

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    nope no jet just a lens smudge

    clear, there is nothing even in the shape of a plane!

    How come we can see the little 6 inch birds clear enough to see they are flapping their wings but not the 100 foot plane?

    invisible stealth 757?

    Oh wait I just enlarged it to take a closer look

    [​IMG]



    The king is back!


    clearly that is beyond a reasonable doubt Elvis!

    How shocking!

    Elvis hit the WTC1
     
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    I'm sure all of the viewers agree with you.
     
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    To be clear, you are claiming two users on this forum, Koko and Derideo_Te, are "working together" like "shills" described in the video embed?
     
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    People working together, on a truffer thread, is a sure sign..."I have no life"..


    I think that would apply to anyone who would spend all day and all night, trying to figure out and regroup all the loose screws in their own head.
     
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    [​IMG]




    Ah so you agree with Scot who insists that we shouldnt talk about this, that a lens smudge is a plane? Reeeely?
     
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    I thought that Scott was referring to Koko and Bob as the two shills!
     
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    :applause:

    I just pop in occasionally for the amusement factor.

    Hard not to be amused at Truther claims that nukes were used to bring down the WTC towers with "explosions" that magically turned up on seismographs BEFORE the planes impacted the towers but the "sounds" of the imaginary "explosions" were only heard by first responders AFTER the towers started to collapse 45 minutes later.
     
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    You mean to tell me you don't know the difference between demolition charges and thermite and how they work?

    Oh boy...
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Watching cognitive dissonance and dishonest posting tactics in action, performed by yourself and others, is not really amusing. Rather, it is depressing to observe otherwise intelligent humans completely abandon their rational processes. But, that is why it is described as dissonance.
     
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    Ironic projection duly noted and ignored for derogatory reasons.
     
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    dishonest posting tactics? ... do you really want to go there E? ...
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    No, but it's been demonstrated so many times I have no choice. It's rather like saying "it's the Benjamins baby". As Cheney said, sometimes you have to go to the dark side.
     
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    as you have demonstrated so may times, I consider you the most dishonest poster here ... your conspiracy library is beyond lunatic fringe ...
     
  19. Kokomojojo

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    pretty tough to beat imaginary planes, the OCT at large!
     
  20. Gamolon

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    Not really.

    Imaginary nukes, imaginary beam weapons, imaginary thermite devices...
     
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    Some people imagine that explosives were used to demolish the buildings. Damned if any forensics experts could find any.
     
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    especially the people that got blown across the basement.
     
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    Like William Rodriguez?
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Flattery will get you everywhere Shine! I am honored that a poster like you considers me dishonest in posting. Yes, in a time of universal deception speaking the truth is a radical act as perceived by many.

    As Dresden James observed, and you prove, when a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.

    Thanks again.
     
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