Thousands rally against Israel in Istanbul

Duh No, al-notme.
A subsequent War (DUH!) waged to wipe out Israel and the Jews in it (and prevent implementation), changes circumstance considerably.
Not to mention, never recognizing Israel.
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PS: watch the similar clownish/knee-jerk, always last-wording in 'answer' to this, which I will Not grace with a reply.

 

Britian was only ever mandated to administer the territory

 

Please source where you ethnic cleansing lot have that authority to trash the parts of the Balfour Declaration where it pleases you and get to keep where it suits you. Sounds a lot more you lot are just making it up to claim you lot got the right to ethnic cleanse and thieve around.... again. Because... that declaration says it being clearly understood....

That is ment for you.

 

That's because your whiney & verbose tome of Hasbara drivel said nothing to refute my earlier assertion which was:

"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab
villages. You do not even know the names of these
Arab villages, and I do not blame you because
geography books no longer exist. Not only do the
books not exist, the Arab villages are not there
either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz
Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the
place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the
place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place
built in this country that did not have a former
Arab population." -- David Ben Gurion, quoted in The
Jewish Paradox, by Nahum Goldmann, Weidenfeld and
Nicolson, 1978, p. 99.

No amount of Hasbara obfuscation can change the reality I stated above.

Whine, whine, whine....

 

So you (and Grau, and notme) really got schooled by me on many points, now with only your 9 word repLie.

From the preamble of the Mandate above:

"....the administration of the territory of Palestine, which formerly belonged to the Turkish Empire, within such boundaries as may be fixed by them; and

Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have also agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for PUTTING INTO EFFECT the declaration originally made on November 2nd, 1917, by the Government of His Britannic Majesty, and adopted by the said Powers, in favor of the Establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people...

IOW, the mandate for the purpose of/with license to, "put into effect" the creation of a Jewish National home in that Mandate.
Nice try/Lie.
Let's go for every page like Grau and notme get gutted.

What a rout.
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Except... this "quote" [too] has been Perverted, Abridged, and MIS-attributed. DOH!

Grau's CLOWN CITY #10,897.

You gotta stop using those anti-semitic and Conspiracy websites.
What a JOKE.
ALL Your posts are antisemitic GARBAGE sourcing Wacko websites. In the case of the above quote, NO website.

Here is the actual quote from DAYAN, NOT Ben Gurion, corrected, and with Context!

http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_article=371&x_context=7

..ACTUAL QUOTE AND CONTEXT:
....
The quote is taken from an address Dayan gave to Technion University students on March 19, 1969. A transcript of the speech appeared in Ha'aretz on April 4, 1969.

In answer to a student's question suggesting that Israel adopt a policy of punishing Arabs who commit crimes in the West Bank by deportation to Jordan, Dayan answers that he is vehemently Opposed to this idea, insisting that the answer to the longstanding Arab-Israeli problem is to learn to Live Together with Arab neighbors. He goes on to say:

""We came to a region of land that was inhabited by Arabs, and we set up a Jewish state. In a considerable number of places, we purchased the land from Arabs and set up Jewish villages where there had once been Arab villages. You don't even know the names [of the previous Arab villages] and I don't blame you, because those geography books aren't around anymore. Not only the books, the villages aren't around. Nahalal was established in the place of Mahalul, and Gvat was established in the place of Jibta, Sarid in the place of Huneifis and Kfar Yehoshua in the place of Tel Shaman. There isn't any place that was established in an area where there had not at one time been an Arab settlement.""

Dayan's conclusion was that the solution to the Arab-Israeli problem is to learn to coexist with them.

In the misquote, the key phrase "we purchased the land from Arabs" is Omitted, and thus Dayan's meaning is Reversed. Dayan was Not saying that Arabs were dispossessed. On the contrary, he was indicating that though Arabs sold the land of their own free will, given their presence in the region, the Israeli goal is to live peacefully Together with them."​

Every post of yours is a Conspiracy/Hate site JOKE.
You should be confined to the Conspiracy section. (and nearest insitution)
You just search the net for any antisemitic garbage you can find.

Yes, yet another Destruction of Grau's Loony Toon posts.
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Israel hides their ethnic cleansing by bulldozing Palestinian villages and then plants trees over it, thus preventing the eventual return of the homeless.

Ex-ambassador: Israel used my father to cover up ethnic cleansing
Former Dutch diplomat plants 1,100 olive trees to make amends for forest planted over ruins of Palestinian village.

Former Dutch ambassador Erik Ader stands with Khader Dibs (right), whose father was expelled from Bayt Nattif during the Nakba (MEE/Jonathan Cook)

QALQILYA, West Bank - A former Dutch ambassador was due to plant 1,100 olive trees in the West Bank on Sunday to make amends, he said, for the fact that Israel had exploited his family’s name to “cover up an act of ethnic cleansing”.
.....
Ader said he had been shocked to discover a decade ago that under the small conifer forest dedicated to his father were concealed the ruins of a Palestinian village.

All of the 2,400 Palestinian inhabitants of Bayt Nattif, south-west of Jerusalem, were expelled in 1948, the year Israel was established. The Israeli army destroyed the 350 homes there and none of the villagers has ever been allowed to return.
....
“It is scandalous what JNF did,” he told Middle East Eye. “These trees served both as a way to prevent the refugees from returning to their homes and to conceal the act of ethnic cleansing that was committed against them in 1948.”
.....
Ader also turned his fire on the Dutch government for taking part in the original dedication ceremony of the forest planted over Bayt Nattif. “They must have known what had happened here but they raised no objections,” he said.

Read more here:
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/e...d-my-father-cover-ethnic-cleansing-2071966680
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Now we know why there are so many trees in Israel.... they hide the thousands of ruins of Palestinian homes underneath them. What a great idea to cover-up their crime scenes and beautify the landscape at the same time!

 

Let's see what fun stuff we got today here...

Yes, earth revolving around the sun is not a fact even though people allegedly got things and methods to detect that... You know why? Because first I'm not there when the detection takes place and since I am the only "legitimate" observer to my own brain to let it know that it's just fine to go with the "scientific finds" that I've been told about, being not there at all was enough for me to have some moronic suspicions about it. Second, I fckin say so... Plus, even if I was there when the detection had taken place, I don't think it would've been a problem for me to say the whole thing was just a "scientific opinion" of some "self pro-claimed scientists" based on "what's seem" as a "scientific approach".
Considering before the secularism took control of things the church was the boss of all and the only credible source of information, such a position would have made a lot of sense; just as today it makes some(!) sense when morons accept nothing but the current world hegemony's supposed credibility which no proof can be provided for it "not being manipulated" ! Yes... I'm that idiot repeating official narratives and state lies like a trained parrot on duty in exchange of seeds and water... So I decided to take it to the next level and create my own BS by starting to deny earth revolving around the sun. At least I'm happy...

Now, in the light of the above lesson you're about to get a head-shot with your own SW 9.65 Lady Smith...

What is NIST? National Institute of Standards and Technology. What is it? Oh sh.t I have to google, right? lol... Well, you should've done it before telling nonsense that 9/11 was an inside job was my opinion. No... National Institute of Standards and Technology is a US government institution and it accepted and admitted that both towers fell in a speed of "free fall"... THAT'S A FACT... Not an opinion. Scientific approach requires further investigation and questioning this point on, let alone the questionings required by bunch of different evidences that make long sets of facts like nanothermite use and identical shapes of free falls from both towers. Some 1900+ independent architects and engineers from all across the nation and the globe are concluding, by following certain "scientific principles", that the state narratives in those stupid commission reports are all fabricated...

They say, Edna Cintron will haunt you if you keep saying:

"It's a fact that the heat that melts 2.54 inch thick steel columns can't penetrate human body"





Hey by the way; hundreds of firefighters and law enforcement, as well as people walking by, reported to the "officials" (including FBI) that they heard several explosions before and after the towers hit by the planes. I think these hundreds of people were all working for the Russian FSB to discredit American government because those testimonies are NOT facts. ""HUNDREDS"" of people can be hired to testify in a certain way for certain aims, right? This must be the reasoning behind your ludicrous conspiracy theory suggestions that you desperately try to make use of by "supposing" the sets of facts are mere theories and they are not true because they would be requiring an ""absolute involvement"" of "tons of people" which would be absurd because it would've been impossible to keep things as secrets when that much of people were involved, right???
As if anybody, including me, had said all this sh.t is "secret"... I told you you're too weak for me but we'll see more weaknesses below...

No, what's proof of a fact is in 5 years from the headline Erdogan and his friends from the "American backed" youth movement called "Milli Talebe Birligi" took power as it was "explained in detail" by the newspaper in the issue of the year 1996. The newspaper is referring to some comments on an analysis report of "Rand Corporation".

What's really stupid is acting as if there's a written rule in somewhere which states; "All your opponent says must be required a bunch of 'secretly working' people conspiring against the free will of humanity to establish their own sociopolitical reality without bothered by any resistant"...

This sick thought is exactly what a "conspirator mind" would have and that ain't me because again I've never said there had to be a "very large group of people conspiring over a long period of time" for whatever you suppose is a conspiracy... That's you Fredo !
I work with the facts that "some" (not many) choose to label as conspiracy because of two intertwined reasons:

1) They don't understand them.
And,
2) They don't like to hear them.

Oh you don't think I could say; "Prove those are PUTIN'S attempts..."? Why? Because you know I believed so too but you're so funny that you hide behind some ""covers"" ? Lol... Let's roll... But be careful, you have to bring me a written or video enforced evidence in which Putin has to be saying "he's attempting to bring the far right in EU to power" ! Yeeeesssss.... Because that's the sort of evidence you'd accept in 9/11 case. You look for government eating its own sh.t on live footage to believe it was an inside job... Therefore that's the sort of evidence I'd accept in this case, I'm so sorry... But lucky you that this time I don't ask people to bring a "written document" that Putin's army was invited by Syrian government because last time I did the forum was turned into a document garbage and unfortunately ""non"" were about the official invitation letter. The closest one was from Mr First and that was about the "military agreement" signed by both governments stating the "military terms" of deployments etc. So please go ahead and make yourself comfortable while looking for evidence...

Yes, I think the person you refer to is an ignorant bicth... Don't you think? Is that how you do it?

Nice one... I like the link... It tells a lot how ISIS is being used as a tool by Israel...
Please share if you got some more... I'm serious... I think we can work together and I'm serious about that too...

I actually think I might have some information that might be of your interest to know... But you have problems with processing raw information without no open source (MSM) confirmation. So maybe I should just keep the info about what the US immigration does with casting agencies and what that "secret" relationship has to do with "immigrants" in the US...

Pffftttt... OK, I understand I stressed you out a little there but still you could have done much better than just playing scrabble and making nonsense...

I was actually thinking you were able to D4 me then think of some challenging strategy when you saw I'm building up some strong Nimzo Indian positioning there...
Sadly, I start thinking I'm wrong about you... I still have a hope tho...

BTW, why "so much" thanks? Were you that desperate thinking I wouldn't "make your point"? Well thank you for thinking that highly of me pisa

You know what they say; "thirsted for making a point but found only a mirage"... hahaha...

Sorry to remind you but that's not even close to what "shooting oneself in the leg" means.
As I said above, it's just sad seeing you like this...
Pull yourself together please...

So how's that concluding to your "Master Race" conspiracy theory ?

Oh brother... I did my best... Beyond that is cheating and I'm not gonna let any of my students to cheat... No... Sorry... You gotta work your way out there yourself...

Of course I wouldn't be that big of a stupid fcktard... But I can't promise if I wouldn't fail a lie-detector test after refusing it for 10 weeks long, or to be carrying not one but "two foreign passports" with me in a suspicious van while stashed 4K in my sock with a box cutter along with bunch of other stupid looking douchs around me in a funny work dress and then get packed and deported to my home country... No... Can't promise that... Especially if I was as young as 22 and was being in a city I was brainwashed to love by Hollywood movies and my government backed me in every possible way... Can't promise I wouldn't feel like a god there and do stupid stuff like that... Experience is everything...

Is Mossad that stupid to send those idiots there? Hell no, Mossad is numero duo in the world, they are so smart but there maybe 2 scenarios:

1- Lack of men power.
2- The job required a certain kind of "genius" specialty on ""some"" 'technological devices' and those nerds were the only alternatives because they were the only ones who were capable of getting the job done.

And I don't think anybody mentioned anything about dancing on a ""crime scene"".

I thought you were done with the mirage thing... Come on, snap out of it now...

Proof of what?

 

I'll be brief here... No rhetoric...

1) Aydinlik is not socialist as I explained clearly. If you don't get what's said then it's perfectly understandable because not everybody is smart enough to comprehend texts, but if you just say you choose to believe that Aydinlik is socialist, than we gotta problem because that's not so different than saying you choose to believe your pet dog is your god. I know everybody is free to believe in what they wish to but I don't want to think that ugly possibility that I was discussing stuff this whole time with a... dog lover should I say? I don't know...

2) CFR is the America's ONLY TRUE government. Hillary says so, not me. Here, watch this over and over again:



So there's NO successive government but certain CFR "graduates" of men and women, who get assigned to offices to be "told" what to do.

Simple...

3) Karen Fogg was EU's Turkiye representative. This is what she said about Erdogan in ""2001"", ""JULY"" :
"Erdogan is like Christian Democrats. He will be filling the vacuum both "left and right" created (after the cold war). He will side with European values in political and economical ways, yet some local cultural and moral elements will be attached to his agenda and he will be successful."

From Erdogan's official bio posted on the official website:

"Mr. Erdoğan, after serving 4 months in prison, established the Justice and Development Party (AK Party) on August 14, 2001"

Source: https://www.tccb.gov.tr/en/receptayyiperdogan/biography/

Karen's full interview is here:
http://www.milliyet.com.tr/2001/07/23/siyaset/asiy.html

Get it translated, I don't care...

Karen is no surprise because Erdogan was working for Atlanticists starting from 1994 and ending in 2013...
19 years he served them real good...

What else I don't care is you keep ignoring the ADL, a very well known and strong Jewish lobby group, openly "awarding" Erdogan. That's why I use the term "Atlanticists" to define his "past" puppeteers because Israel was one of them. Not today... That's why he was not a dictator when he was imprisoning Pro Russian Eurasianist Kemalists back in 2007 but he is today... Lol...

4) Caroline Hagins was the Consul at the General Consulate of the US in Istanbul in 1998. Some time before that date, Erbakan's Refah Party was banned (remember Batasuna? No? Did cat get your tongue -not the mother one- when you learned about Batasuna? huh? What happened?) and my dear Caroline didn't even bother to say a word about it. However, same Carol of the bells showed up from nowhere and visited Erdogan when he was the mayor of Istanbul in his office just the next day the court ruled against him, on 28 September 1998, and told reporters about the ruling that "this sort of developments lower the trust to Turkish democracy"... WOW...

Really? Let's see then:

Abramowitz first visited Erdogan in 1994, when he was only a "district" head of ""Refah Party"" (Beyoglu district of Istanbul). Erdogan was not even a parliament member, not a minister... So he was not a "politician" of the sort we all could consider. Guess what happened? Later on this year Erdogan first won the elections and got the title of mayor of Istanbul. He then went to the US. A year later, he visited DC this time and stayed there from April 17th, 1995 to April 21st 1995. A year later again got to visit DC (Nov 17, 1996 to Nov 22, 1996). And then just a month later in that same year again visited DC (Dec 20, 1996 to Dec 23, 1996)

 

Lets get one thing strait here among all your BS, you're the whining side, always have been since 1946, we have all we need, we dont need your approval or action to anything that we wish to do, at least this is a fact you cannot twist.

 

Hardly. The British had no right to make any promise over that land in 1917 or at any other time.

Incidentally, why did you forget the bit that said:

it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing nonJewish communities in Palestine
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just curious....

 

Your replies are pathetic. You've been corrected/schooled on Everything, including the Lie in your last that the Brits weren't authorized.
In fact, the League of Nations Mandate charged them with creating the Jewish National Home in Palestine.

And unlike totally arbitrary British creations 'Jordan' and 'Iraq', Israel was finally conceived and voted on by the UN.
The most legitimate state to come out of the Ottoman break-up.

And I didn't "forget that bit," I posted it/Taught it to you.
Of course/Duh, the Mandate didn't foresee the 1948 War.

After getting categorically gutted/100% schooled, you come back with Clownish one sentences losers, that are still lies.
You were never in this debate, you picked up your scraps from my posts.
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Poor attempt by you to create a straw-man. They were entrusted to administer the land in accordance with the Mandate; they never had title to it and were in no position to make promises regarding it. Like I originally said.

You omitted it, bit crucial to the whole discussion isn't it?

The Mandate didn't foresee the creation of a "Jewish state", either.

 

Israel surrendered the land, the land it acquired in an offensive war, in conditions of war. Hardly "voluntary"in the ordinary sense of the term.

But the real point is that we are talking about Zionism as a political movement, as opposed to the legal state of Israel. "Closest" is a relative term. In terms of the underlying ideology of Zionism, you have failed to distinguish it from Nazism apart from the extremes to which Nazism was left to go unchecked.

I didn't make that statement. Pretending that I did makes you look kind of dishonest.

 

Yes and I am not in mood to discuss with a typical simple-minded Erdogan-groupie.

Stop there, buddy. I dont like the communists, you wanted them to start a march and to end this what you call facist dictatorship. What every international organization considers as a healthy democracy, while Turkey is a stinkhole, as I proved.

No, you wanna put a meaning into my statement, I did never write down. I just told you, the very day they are in power, they will recognize Kurdistan as a souvereign state and the PKK as legitimate leadership. As you obviously did not know as you wished, they would start a march and take over here. I disagree with them in many questions, but I couldnt care less, if in Turkey AKP-terrorists or PKK-terrorists have the upper hand. I simply dont care.

The Kalifatstaat did not exist in Germany in 1983, but was found in 1994 Cologne. And this is a typical example, why I am not going to discuss with you any of these topics. You have no idea what you are talking about and thus politics in a modern urban civilization is too complex for you, you rely rather on conspiracy theories. ust as for the Erdogan followers. I dont see any good reason to discuss with you or any other Islamist.

 

Here is your authority.

 

The Israeli Rambo...

 

You're a gift, my friend

 

Do you like old big hairy Siberian natives? Guy, stay aside.... Or gay, stay aside... What's correct one in this case? Sorry, my English is so bad one...

 

Likewise with your BS Re:

Without incessant & effective whining for more & more aid, blood, (i.e. wars for Israel)(1) money, stolen technology, "reparations" etc from foreign countries Israel would & could not exist & that is a fact you cannot twist.

“Five reasons U.S. aid to Israel is a bad investment”
http://irmep.org/5reasons.asp

1. U.S. aid to Israel yields a huge negative return on investment

2. U.S. Aid to Israel is not a significant “U.S. jobs creator”

3. U.S. aid enables Israel to forever avoid a meaningful peace deal

4. U.S. aid to Israel offsets Israel’s nuclear weapons development costs

5. Israel's nuclear weapons program makes aid illegal”

CONTINUED

If "you" already have all "you" need, why do "you" always want more?


(1) “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”

AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003

 

The only thing more laughable than your overinflated ego is your use of Zionist web site: C.A.M.E.R.A. & premise that Zionist Terrorists were in any way interested in "buying" Palestine with anything more than baubles and beads.

For the 4th & last time, you have yet to refute my initial assertion which was:

"The Israel / Palestine conflict is far simpler than obfuscated by this forum's glut of Hasbara Trolls.

Until 1880, Palestine was only 2% - 4% Jewish.
Over the decades, FOREIGN Zionist Terrorist Gangs & FOREIGN militant Colonists forcibly seized virtually all of Palestine with the aid of the Colonial Powers until what is left is only the Gaza concentration camp & the shattered West Bank"

"'Transfer' (Ethnic Cleansing) Zionist Quotes"
http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Famous-Zionist-Quotes/Story694.html
EXCERPT "The concept of "transferring" European Jews to Palestine and "transferring" the Palestinian people out is central to Zionism. Ben-Gurion, the 1st Israeli Prime Minister, eloquently articulated this essential Zionist pillar, he stated in 1944:

"Zionism is a TRANSFER of the Jews. Regarding the TRANSFER of the [Palestinian] Arabs this is much easier than any other TRANSFER. There are Arab states in the vicinity . . . . and it is clear that if the [Palestinian] Arabs are removed [to these states] this will improve their condition and not the contrary." (Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 159)

When a "Jewish majority" was impossible to achieve based on Jewish immigration and natural growth, Zionists had concluded that forcible "population transfer" (Ethnic Cleansing) was the only solution to what they referred to as the "Arab Problem." To excuse the "Jewish state" from any WAR CRIMES perpetrated against the Palestinian people (specially the ones committed during the 1948 war), Zionists have concocted a myth that the Palestinian people had willingly left their homes, farms, and businesses, and as a result they have forfeited their right to return."CONTINUED

 

QUOTE QUESTIONS

I'll gladly admit when I'm wrong or a source I've used was mistaken.
For example, the following quote has one author, Moshe Dayan, but I've found conflicting variations.

For example:

http://www.zionism-israel.com/fake_zionist_quotes.htm

"We came to this country which was already populated by Arabs and we are establishing a Hebrew, that is a Jewish state there. In considerable areas of the country we bought the lands from the Arabs, Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not know even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you, because these geography books no longer exist; not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahalal arose in the place of Mahalul, Gevat -- in the place of Jibra, Sarid -- in the place of Haneifs and Kefar Yehoshua -- in the place of Tell Shaman. There is not one place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population.

Moshe Dayan

OR

http://monabaker.com/quotes.htm

"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."

- Moshe Dayan, April 1969, Ha'aretz; quoted in Edward Said, 'Zionism from the Standpoint of Its Victims', Social Text, Volume 1, 1979, 7-58.

Missing from the bottom quote is the sentence: "In considerable areas of the country we bought the lands from the Arabs, "
However the history of the conflict remains that what land was "bought" was very little, under duress and for very little.
The bulk of Palestinian land was forcibly seized from the Arabs and continues to be forcibly seized:

"Revealed: Nearly 3,500 settlement homes built on private Palestinian land"
http://www.haaretz.com/misc/article-print-page//.premium-1.808442

EXCERPT "These illegal structures could be legalized under Israel's contentious 'land-grab' law, whose validity is now being determined by the High Court of Justice

There are 3,455 residential and public buildings built on private Palestinian lands in the West Bank, according to Civil Administration data. These illegal structures could be legalized under the expropriation law, whose validity is now being determined by the High Court of Justice in response to Palestinian petitions against the law."CONTINUED

 

Not sure.

 

1. Wikiquote (Dayan), always a good starting/adjudicating place, also has it with the "purchase", section.

2. But, you and Your usual wack job website, even had the Author wrong!
It was Dayan, not 'Ben Gurion'! And they had the source wrong too. It was NOT Nahum Goldmann's dubious book, it was a speech of Dayan's published in Ha'aretz!
This is insane.

3. In fact, ALL you posts are Bigoted are INSANE.
You debate by Conspiracy/Hate website Snippets because...
unlike me you are Not conversant on the topic.
Not my many posts in the last 5 pages schooling people here.

4. You don't have ANY serious sources and no coherent I-P history narrative. Just 'Israel is bad/butchers/Mengele.'
If you saw a website that said Jooos were killing Palestinian babies with Radioactive falafel, you'd post it: "Genotoxic", "Carcinogenic"!
You have no qualms, and no coherence, justing raging BIGOTRY.
You can and have posted Anything that pleases it.

5. And, you'll post the identical snippet 100 times. Linked/unlinked/expired link.
Oft when I search for their validity, there's just you and 2 or 3 [other] Loony Bin websites.
You've posted a few more than 20 times on this message board, no matter the topic.
ie, 44 times on this one
https://www.google.com/search?q="grau"+“QUIETLY+LOBBYING+CONGRESS+TO+APPROVE+THE+USE+OF+FORCE+IN+IRAQ+WAS+ONE+OF+AIPAC’S+SUCCESSES+OVER+THE+PAST+YEAR.”+site:www.politicalforum.com&filter=0&biw=1163&bih=539
in 20 different strings

6. Some other/Real Ben-Gurion quotes
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/David_Ben-Gurion

• Under no circumstances must we touch land belonging to fellahs or worked by them. Only if a fellah leaves his place of settlement, should we offer to buy his land, at an appropriate price.
  • Written statement (1920), as quoted in Teveth, Shabtai (1985), Ben-Gurion and the Palestinian Arabs: From Peace to War, Oxford University Press.

• We do not wish, we do not need to expel the Arabs and take their place. All our aspirations are built upon the assumption — proven throughout all our activity in the Land — that there is enough room in the country for ourselves and the Arabs.
  • Letter to his son Amos (5 October 1937), as quoted in Teveth, Shabtai, Ben Gurion: The Burning Ground; and Karsh, Efraim (2000), Fabricng Israeli History: The 'New Historians'; this has been extensively MISquoted as "[We] must expel Arabs and take their places" after appearing in this form in Morris, Benny (1987), The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem, 1947–1949, Cambridge University Press, p. 25.

• We extend the hand of peace and good-neighborliness to all the States around us and to their people, and we call upon them to cooperate in mutual helpfulness with the independent Jewish nation in its Land. The State of Israel is prepared to make its contribution in a concerted effort for the advancement of the entire Middle East.
  • Israel's Proclamation of Independence, read on (14 May 194

• Even amidst the violent attacks launched against us for months past, we call upon the sons of the Arab people dwelling in Israel to keep the peace and to play their part in building the State on the basis of full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its institutions, provisional and permanent.
  • Israel's Proclamation of Independence, read on (14 May 1948

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7. CAMERA exists because of the penchant of Arabs and antisemites to Lie about Israel, and completely fabricate history, and especially those fake "Zio quotes". Then it gets repeated by lazy media or authors.

The very FAKE Zio quotes that are your stock in trade.
On one Arab board, a poster put up ten "quotes". I debunked the first four fakes and threw up my hands.

There are many more websites with/that parrot the Fake quotes than real ones!
Antisemites like 'Monabaker' just find them on the net, and are happy to repeat them. Sound familiar?

Some don't even exist. ie, "Sharon's" "We control America".
It's also on the 'hypertexts' WACK site you posted a page or two ago!

You post ANY Garbage you find.
You don't know fact from fiction.
You deny Wiki and the MSM, and post 'hypertexts, 'trionfo', and infamous conspiracy garbage like 'Globalresearch' and 'WhatReallHappened', and 100 more INSANE/Infamous Links that even you must know are BS. But your joo hate rules.

8. You have issues. BIG issues.
Your posts are Rabid, Ridiculous, and Crazy hate, and you are willing to believe Anything about Jooos.. and deliriously happy to post it interminably.

9. Stop hogging the machine, and give the other patients their turn.

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What our dealing with the US got to do with whinning ? its you Arabs that whine about it constantly trying to wedge our relations, the US and Israel have common intersts to explain investments, more than that we share culture and history, I think there is no other country out of the US that likes it better than we do, we probebly like it more than one or two that are members of the US.