Thumbs up to infanticide.

I thought this would be a good thread to dispose of the silly idea that there is something that seriously divides a fetus' capacities the moment before and after birth - because there really isn't. I also want to reject this rhetorical nonsense from lifers that "innocent human life must be protected." That is just nonsense, and totally unjustifiable. What follows is a link to an article that provides a validation of abortion and infanticide, from bio-ethicist Michael Tooley, which not only reiterates a defence of my position, but also refutes the misconceptions and irrationality mentioned above. I recommend people read it, since it addresses all relevant points of the positions I have mentioned.

Abortion and Infanticide
Michael Tooley
1972. Philosophy and Public Affairs, Vol. 2, No. 1
http://rci.rutgers.edu/~tripmcc/phil/cmsi/csmi-abortion/tooley-abortionandinfanticide.pdf

 

Interesting article, and I agree with a lot of what it says. Bookmarked for later reading..

 

you can be sure I will quote you on this the next time you try to compare racial separatism to nazism in the 'race relations' section
If you have no problem with exterminating human life out of mere convenience for the mother...

 

Thank god tooley writes that well else it would be hell to read it.

 

What do you mean?

Then... what?

 

You'd think, with lifers so ardent about the immorality of abortion, they would be quick to dispel the legitimacy of infanticide. Its quite telling they cant even attempt to do this.

 

Evil……lurks here.

 

Mike Tooley is a degenerate who deserves a 51st trimester abortion - with a Colt .45.

 

bahahaha baby gonna cry? Nice to see he is sooo incorrect you cant even make an attempt at showing how he is wrong.

 

I'll chloroform him before I cap him - that way he won't be able to show any conscious interest in being alive - so it'll be justifiable

 

But he will still have the capacity to have an interest. What's more you are violating his autonomy, not to mention the preexisting pursuit of his interests.

Incidentally, you clearly aren't "pro-life." LOL Ignorant and contradictory - you lifers are hilarious.

 

As fetuses do have a capacity to have an interest, assuming their drug addict baby mommies don't murder them for convenience.

As abortion does to innocent babies, yes.

I only support innocent life, not that which is evil, such as Josef Meng... I mean Mike Tooley.

 

That sound like a very "pro life" comment!

NOT!

 

Once again you are completely wrong. They have no such capacity until 26-28 days AFTER BIRTH.

No, because a fetus is not autonomous from its mother - an infant is, but the infant still has no interest in its existence until 26 days as mentioned above.

Exactly, so you're not pro-life. You're "supportive of some life."

 

I'm not pro-life - I'm pro-innocent life. Live by the sword, die by the sword I say.

Leftists sound quite "pro-life" when they defend of a convicted pedophile/rapist/murderer against the death penalty, but won't give the same rights to an innocent child.

 

Right, then I'll keep him in a medically-induced coma lasting for 26-28 days - therefore I can execute him in that time and it'll be morally justifiable, since he has no interest in remaining alive in his comatose state.

While in a comatose state he would not be autonomous of whoever is providing him care/life support. lol

Correct - those who deny rights of others deserve them not for themselves.

 

Anyone who defends infanticide is no better than a NAMBLA member.

 

Megadeth---to me your posts are very honest. I think that most avid pro-abortion people on this board share your views----as they don't dispute them. And I think that ultimately abortion is simply the devaluation of children. In general--if children are devalued then the "me" mentality which is the liberal position---can flourish. Not just for abortion but in many policies such as changing the focus for marriage, co-habitation, etc. Any sacrifice for a fetus, newborn or child who does not offer obvious gratification to its care-taker is abhorrent to liberals who want policies that worship the "self".

It would be interesting to see if some fanatical abortion believers will at least be a little appalled over the killing of newborns. So far---no.

 

But these people probably think child rape is ok.

 

I note with interest that not one "pro-choice" person has spoken out in this thread against Megadeth's position that infanticide is ok. Hmmm....

 

I know. I guess its only pro-life people against infanticide.

 

I note with interest that not one "pro-life" person has made an intelligent response to the OP. Why don't you lead the way?

 

Unbelievable. Can you make an intelligent response of why infanticide is a bad thing? Or is it ok in your mind. In that case---can you give us your opinion? Or are you a coward.

 

Have you made one? All I've seen is bashing.