Time to ban shotguns?

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  1. Josephwalker

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    So this latest school shooter kid used a shotgun instead of an "assault rifle" as the left likes to call them. His body count was comparable to or higher than most school shootings with carbines that the left wants to ban. I'm curious what you guys think now. Time to ban shotguns too?
     
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    a 12 gage shot gun with say # 4 buck pellets are more deadly at short range then a ar 15 5.56 round that will go stright threw most of the time at short point blank range go to video time 3:20 shooting a table top
    look at the wider pattern using #4 buck much better then 00 buck
     
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    heres stats at close range in a class room seting verses long range out doors in a field not as good
    https://ammo.com/bullet-type/4-buck
     
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    And if he had killed people with his hands....
    What would we ban then?

    In England, many criminals have abandoned guns in favor of knives- that by nature are silent and attract less attention. Response in England?
    Ban Knives!

    I'm waiting for the day when I see a post from GC advocates that asks for control of people with high risk of violence, which at present we don't place on the gun registry because of medical privacy rules. So many of the school shooters left a trail of warning signs that an idiot could read- and nobody, including the FBI, does anything until it's too late.
    How can such an obvious answer to reducing the problem be so ignored by so many who have the responsibility and authority to protect people?
     
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    So should we ban shotguns?
     
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    nah ducks and geese pheasant doves cant be shot with a rifle in air~
     
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    Those on the left are in a bind here. As you proved shotguns are more deadly than carbines in this type of shooting so the anti gun people are going to have to come out of the closet and say yes ban shotguns or they will have to **** about carbines. It's kind of a tough call for them.
     
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    The problem with liberals and their useful idiots is they just want to do something to make them feel good when someone uses a gun to kill. They don't want common sense solutions that can be measured. They like slogans and demonstrations. And too often they are against the death penalty for the gun toting criminal who mowed down the innocent people.
     
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    i am really surprised more shotguns say a tactical one arent being used in school shootings more
    with a little training you can reload quickly like this video time 0:40
     
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    So far they are avoiding this uncomfortable thread in like the plague.
     
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    death penally fast after the fact say no more then a week since they have no doughts the suspect did it. would help and detour a lot of the future shooters, since now they talk to the reporters after being caught and are made like a celebrity and are having fame for the next year or so they spend in prision
     
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    I've said for along time in here that IMO a shotgun would be a better weapon to use for a mass shooting than a carbine and this latest little nut job proves it.
     
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    No one expects there to be a 'total' end to killings with guns. There are a few people that think an average of one mass shooting a week for 2018 is perhaps a few too many. :)
     
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    you might just see a shift in the use of shotguns after this incident:( verses the ar 15 , if a school room door is locked a 12 gage can blow the lock off easily with one shot a 5.56 will take a 5 shots and then still might not do it
     
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    Banning shotguns is on the to-do list of gun grabbers

    But not immediately
     
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    what about pipe bombs :confusion: at the hardware home depots plumbing stores are they going to ban the plugs end #5 too:worker: a key part to them
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    see they dont need to go to the home depot to buy the caps if they are restricted for the pipebomb they just steal them from a neighbors home garage or a building thats vacant taking them out of the wall with a pipe wrench
     
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    Cars, trucks and poisons are deadly too

    Bedwetting liberals cannot afford to overlook tem
     
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    I've said for along time in here that IMO a shotgun would be a better weapon to use for a mass shooting than a carbine and this latest little nut job proves it.
    So would you ban shotguns or not?
     
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    vast majority of mass-shootings are done with AR-15s, not shotguns
     
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    A shotgun and a 38 revolver.
     
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    Didn't prove a thing. You will never have a way of knowing how many would have been killed with an AR-15 in the same time frame. The shotgun could well be the reason there were more injured than killed. As to your question: No.
     
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    I think the shotgun did most if not all of the killing and I have to wonder where all the cries from the left are to ban shotguns. Why carbines and not shotguns? Where is the consistency?
     
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    So is your point shotguns are not as efficient at killing as carbines and that's why you want carbines banned but not shotguns?
     
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    Leftist gun-grabbers after the Oklahoma City bombing: good thing Timothy didn't use an AR-15...no telling how many more would have been killed.
     
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