Time to push Islam out of Non Islamin World

Discussion in 'Ethnic & Religious Conflicts' started by bentblue, Feb 11, 2012.

  1. Mrbsct

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    Wahhabism is more a term to describes to Saudi type Salafists. AQ, ISIS, Boko Haram are distinct Wahhabi organizations. Hamas and Muslim Brotherhood are refered to as just Salafists. One is promoting pan-Islam of international terrorists, while the other is mainly to promote nationalism within own borders and more Pan-Arab.
     
  2. Margot2

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    AQ follows Hassan al Banna and are Deobandi. ISIS, Boko Haram are NOT wahhabi.. They are the enemy of Saudis and the Wahhabis doctrine. Muslim Brotherhood is NOT Wahhabi that's why MB has been outlawed in KSA since King Faisel.
     
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    ISIS is Wahhabi. They believe in the exact same ideologies. That is a very fundemental view just like the Taliban. They are just enemies with Saudi Arabia on a state level.
    https://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/wahhabism-isis-and-the-saudi-connection/

    MB is not Wahhabi. I said never said they were. They are just normal Salafists.
     
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    ISIS came out of Baathist Iraq. KSA has never liked Baathism. MB has never been Salafi.
     
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    ISIS came out of Iraq...but aren't Baathists. Baathists are secular. Saddam is a secular dictator.
    ISIS was orignally Al-Qaeda in Iraq led by Al-Zarqawi. They didn't have much footing in Iraq till after US invasion. They spawned from Al-Qaeda themselves. Osama Bin Laden was Wahhabi absolutlely. He was Saudi, who was worked with the Royal Family for while, and hailed a hero for fighting the Soviets. But when he starting saying anti-West stuff and wanting to change Saudi Arabia to be even more Wahhabi, King Fahd freaked out and banished him.

    MB are Salafists. They just aren't Wahhabi.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salafi_movement
     
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    Oh, they do believe in the separation of church and state. They just don't believe in the separation of mosque and state. :icon_yoda:

    Islam is a cult, a totalitarian sect and as such it should be banned. :salute:
     
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    Islam is not only the belief in the oneness of Allah. Islam is also the Quran, the haddits and the Sunna. And there is full of hate speech.

    Ah yeah, and the unconstitutional Sharia law is also Islam.
     
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    Most Baathists were Sunni....... OBL was NOT Wahhabi.. He came under the influence of the teachings of Hassan al Banna and Sayyid Qubt.. Faisel expelled the brother of Sayyid Qubt in the early 1970s because their sanctuary in KSA was predicated on NOT teaching MB crap. Faisel expelled the whole lot of those who sought sanctuary from Egypt and Nasser.

    OBL never worked for the Saudi royal family. He was the black sheep of a successful family. His citizenship was yanked in 1994 and AQ was declared a terrorist org by King Fahd and Crown Prince Abdullah.
     
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    The US will have to suspend the constitution first then prepare for an economic crash as the oil runs out and Muslim countries remove all investment.
     
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    Looks like the Saudis are poised to make a 10 billion dollar expansion of Motiva.
     
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    Baathists are Sunni but NOT religious.

    OBL was definetly Wahhabi. But a different form of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beliefs_and_ideology_of_Osama_bin_Laden

    When I say "worked for Saudi family" I meant fought in Afghanistan using US and Saudi support.
     
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    Some Baathists are religious.. in fact most are. OBL wasn't Wahhabi ..

    Bin Laden's ideological guides have proven to be Ibn Taymiyya, Ibn al-Qayyim al-Jawziyyah, and Sayyid Qutb.

    Bin Laden's connection with contemporary Wahhabi Islam is disputed. Some believe his ideology is different in crucial ways. While modern Wahhabi doctrine states that only political leaders can call for jihad, bin Laden believed he could declare jihad. Modern Wahhabism forbids disobedience to a ruler unless the rule has commanded his/her subjects to violate religious commandments.[9] Furthermore, the basic goals of bin Laden are different to contemporary Wahhabists. Bin Laden was most interested in "resisting western domination and combating regimes that fail to rule according to Islamic law,"[9] while Wahhabism focuses on correct methods of worshiping God, removing idols, and ensuring adherence to Islamic law.[9]

    On the other hand, some believe[10] bin Laden "adopted Wahhabi terminology" when they called America `the Hubal of the age`, since Hubal was a stone idol and idolatry (shirk) was the primary Wahhabi sin.
     
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    Don't believe the crap the assorted posters using the 'Margot2' handle posts on the innernetz, either.

    Islam in all its forms is a political ideology, a nasty violent one, and common sense dictates that it be treated like one. It's followers can call it a 'religion', but that doesn't obligate anybody else to be 'tolerant' of it any more than Hitler's 'Reich Church' means we have to be 'tolerant' of Nazism. We don't have to be 'tolerant' of ritual cannibalism, paganism's human sacrifices, or anything else practiced by homocidal savages and lunatics.
     
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    No, it doesn't have to suspend the Constitution, and only a few Muslim families have investments here; they invest here because there isn't anywhere else to invest it.
     
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    I seem to recall something about freedom of religion in there.
    If you kick Muslims out of the US for no reason other than their religion you will have to break or suspend the constitution.

    Isn't that treason?
     
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    You probably 'recall' all sorts of imaginary things. The Establishment clause restricted the Federal government from favoring any particular church as a national church; it didn't restrict the states from having them, and most did have state endorsed sects, complete with taxing powers to fund schools.

    No, you wouldn't have to, any more than it's 'illegal' to ban Nazis and criminals from entering the country. They aren't being banned for their phony 'religion', they're a political ideology that isn't welcome, and never should be.

    Only to idiots, and 'recallers' like yourself.
     
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    Indofred Banned at Members Request

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    Odd how you mention Nazis in a negative way when you want to follow one of their core policies.
    I love a good laugh and your very silly post made my day's quota.
     
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    I could be having a little difficulty with my reading comprehension this afternoon but it looks like you don't know the wording of the thing.
    I have taken this opportunity to educate you so you don't like look a pathetic uneducated moron because that would be very bad and people might laugh at you.
    No need to thank me, as a Muslim it's my duty to help as many people as possible, more so in this holy month of Ramadan.
    Peace be upon you.
     
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    I don't care what Muslim vermin get 'good laughs' at, or any other pedo-friendly scum like or don't like. Mein Kampf is a perennial best seller in Islmao-vermin countries, not this one; I'm sure you've worn out several copies of it.
     
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    you have difficulty because you're mentally ill.

    You've taken this opportunity to prove you're an ignorant dufus who doesn't have the first clue as to the original intent of that clause nor the history of this country. Now run along and find some Islamo-vermin mob to join and help them murder some infidels and steal something from their houses there in wonderful enlightened Indonesia, another vermin infested country that should be napalmed into oblivion for the good of the rest of the planet.
     
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    I have read it as everyone should in order not to repeat the hate and stupidity spread by the Nazi party.
    The tone of your posts suggest you have not and are advocating a rerun of his stupidity.
     
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    I beg to differ. You are clearly totally unable to comprehend a sentence in simple English.
    What part of "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" can't you understand?
    If you ban Muslims from the US, you are prohibiting the free exercise of that religion.

    I'm having a little trouble trying to think down to an IQ of sub 50 in order to phrase it in a way you can understand.
     
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    Doesn't matter how often you repeat yourself, you don't have the first clue as to the meaning of that clause, and the fact that it didn't prevent the individual states from having an established religion. It also doesn't prevent our government from banning a violent political ideology that can't comply with that clause, Calling a political ideology a 'religion' isn't a loophole, except to idiots and liars.

    No, we're preventing the free exercise of violent genocidal political ideology. You're just too stupid to find a way around that fact.

    you're having trouble because you're a Muslim, and can't make up a good enough lie that flies.
     
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    No doubt all Muslims are very familiar with Nazis, as they love Hitler and worship him to this day. They even publish Hitler coloring books for their children and sell them in grocery stores. Quit trying to pretend Islam is anything but a cult for sociopaths and bandits. Even your left wing fans don't really believe you're anything else, they just like your style of butchery and genocide.
     
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    Never seen one here and this country has more Muslims than anywhere in the world.
     

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