To be consistant, shouldn't "pro-lifers" call for retroactive prosecution of women...

who have had an abortion in the past?

I mean, if abortion is "murder"?.....we certainly don't allow somebody to murder somebody and then let them say "Oh, I've repented of what I did. I think murder is a truly horrible act and fight hard now to see that murders are stopped!"


No.....if somebody kills somebody, even if it's years later, there is no statute of limitations for murder. They are prosecuted.

So...if we learned that a woman had ever had an abortion....naturally, in "pro-lifer perfect world"....she should be prosecuted, shouldn't she? With no more mercy or excuse making for her...as for the woman who has an abortion and doesn't "repent".

In fact, would you even listen to somebody who says "I had an abortion a long time ago, but I NOW think it's murder and want other women who have one prosecuted"....and not consider them a self-serving hypocrite?

 

No offense, but I really don't understand what you're trying to argue/ask about. Please elaborate more on what you mean by this question.

 

I agree becasue there is no statute of limitations on murder so if abortion becomes illegal anyone who had an abortion but is a DECENT CHRISTIAN PERSON WITH A CONSCIENCE WHO ISN'T A HYPOCRITE would turn themselves in....

 

not wishing to step on GC's toes I believe what is being said here is that if abortion were made illegal and it was considered to be murder, and as far as I am aware there is no statue of limitation on murder ie you can be prosecuted 50 years after the event took place, then all women, including those who had abortions, who "repented" and now campaign against them should in the eyes of the law be arrested and prosecuted.
Anyone who would disagree with this, especially those who have had abortions, repented and now campaign against them would be little more that hypocrites.

 

No. This would be far too impractical. If abortion was made illegal, then the prison population would increase with tens of millions of more Americans.

 

Then making abortion illegal and making it murder could not be done, unless they change the no statue of limitations for murder specifically to cover abortion.

 

Not nessecarily. They could make a law that states that people who preformed abortions while they were legal in the past, don't have to go to jail.

 

So you don't think abortion is murder...or we should not prosecute murderers?

 

It would cost us trillions of dollars, or at the very least hundreds of billions of dollars, and we don't have the space to jail tens of millions of women.

Our prison population would be at least ten times bigger. That would just be totally impractical.

I want churchmouse or whaler17 to reply to this thread. I don't know how to answer your questions and respond to your arguements. Whaler 17 and Churchmouse are much smarter than I am in debating.

 

Nobody should be prosecuted for something that is legal. I am against abortion, but it is legal and this is a free country. But neither am I a Christian so I do not view this as a religious argument.

 

The cost is irrelevant as is the number of spaces in the jails, murder is murder .. there is no (current) legislation that would allow for past murders to go un-punished. Therefore making abortion illegal and paramount to murder is not logically achievable.

 

This is a hypothetical question posed that if abortion were to be made illegal, and any abortion performed would be charged as murder then any person who has ever had an abortion should be charged with murder as there is no statue of limitation on murder ie, if you perform a murder you can still be prosecuted 50 years after it took place.

It is very much a religious argument in the context of whether a person who has had an abortion repents and then campaigns against abortion is that person still liable to face charges if abortion becomes murder by law .. does the repentance exclude them from the law.

 

But making abortion illegal would save millions of lives in the long run.

Putting people in jail who did abortions in the past wouldn't do that.

Also, there are many historical examples of people being acquitted of crimes.

 

Murder is murder.

Do you have any idea of how the courts would be tied up with millions of cases to be tried ?

You might get away with saying that no cases should be tried while it was legal but there's cases before that and then after that we get into how will you prove a woman had an abortion which will really clog the court system to a standstill.




AND: I don't WANT millions of unwanted children brought into the world...it's overcrowded now.


Life is too complicated now, abortion should just stay legal..

 

I agree with you on one thing-the court systems would be clogged up beyond belief if tens of millions of women had to go on trial, not to mention the horror/disaster it would be if tens of million of people were suddenly sent to jail. I would not jail people who did abortions in the past, if I made abortion illegal.

 

Maybe YOU wouldn't but law enforcement officers would be obliged to....aren't you against abortion because it's MURRRRRDERRRRRR!!!!!

 

Sometimes people can be acquitted of crimes. Millions of women wouldn't have to be put in jail, if abortion was made illegal.

 

To aquit people of crimes you have to go to COURT....a clogged , overburdened court.

 

No one cares about killing children unless its done with a gun.

 

Actually no it won't "save millions of lives"

See where I live abortion is illegal and our rates of abortion are similar to the USA

 

Not nessecarily. You can just make a federal decree that women who got abortions in the past are now immune to prosecution.

 

At the risk of chasing the same bloody monkey around the same bloody tree

Abortion is NOT "killing children"

 

No you couldn't - your constitution would not allow that

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What about the women having illegal abortions in your world of legislated slavery? How far would you prosecute them?

 

So would a decent sex education program and funding for better contraception, like the research going on in India.

No it wouldn't, but the law is the law, unless the statute of limitations is changed then all past crimes have to be answered.

That is true .. however, how do you get around the documented evidence ie the consent form every woman has to sign in order to get an abortion. This is evidence of premeditated murder, which in some states still warrants the death penalty, you also then have every doctor who performed an abortion and every clinical staff who assisted, they would be guilty of accessory to murder, and while many would be acquitted, there would still have to be a court trial, and those who were prosecuted would then spend years going through the various appeals .. it would render the courts (& police) useless in fighting any other crime.

 

Not nessecarily. The federal government could just make a bill that states, "all women who got abortions in the past, while it was legal, are immune to prosecution".