Too much evidence....

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Probably for good reason

    How many “rallies” do voters here in Australia attend? Even in America the “swing” voters who decide elections don’t bother with attending rallies. Certainly Millennials will probably not attend and THAT is the group that are pinged off with mightily with the GOP
     
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    Rallies are no more an indication of total popularity than a random questionnaire in a pub. For a start you have to have TIME to attend. Most working people don’t
     
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    Sooo, no one has the time for Bidet? Figures... auiqs.jpg.gif
    ...and everyone has time for Trump. You got that right.

    ...and popularity... err, do you mean that those are the people who like their candidate, so not only do they vote for them, they show up to rallies to show support for their candidate?
     
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    Biden appeals to working people who don’t have time for rallies and don’t need to go to them. The attendees t trumps rallies are only a minuscule number of the population - a large proportion are bussed in
     
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    Our political scenario is different if you haven't noticed.
     
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    The ones he screws royally? Crickets are all that is heard from Biden rallies, Trump on the other hand draws the crowds from all corners of the States.
    Bused in, as in reference to my statement above, coming from all over.
     
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    Because he knows the answer but doesn't want to admit what he claims is crap.
     
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    Yep, biden got more votes did not have more attendance so proof of no correlation.
     
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    You just proved it. Bidet got more votes and fewer attendees. Yet Trump got fewer votes and many more attendees. There is a correlation, the fact that Bidet got so many more votes doesn't align with the numbers that show up. DO YOU SEE THIS AT ALL?

    With this equation, you can say that if Trump had 10 mil fewer votes, and has thousands turn up to rallies, yet Bidet had 10 mil more votes but is lucky to reach crowds in the hundreds. IT DOESN'T ADD UP.
    If Bidet had a vote count of more than 10 mil more than Trump, Bidet's crowd numbers would rival or surpass those of Trump's crowds. This tells me the Bidet vote count was bullshit.
     
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    And none you can prove either.


    There really has not been any evidence at all. There have been lots of facts, but not evidence. For instance, there have been transfers from point A to point B to point C involving Hunter Biden, but no other documents on the reasons for those payments. Not a single one by Comer and his committee. Then you have Hunter Biden's former secretary, who alleged that she was a spy because she worked for the Chinese government. Since I worked for the federal government and I went abroad, let's say China, do you think the Chinese would accuse me of spying for the US government? Oh hell no. They are not that stupid because of the agency I worked for which has nothing to do with national security. CEFC China's Energy is actually a private company in China. Yes, there are private companies in China. But because they do business, a lot of business with the Central Communist Government of China, that is what the GOP says is the link. And yet, she is not been proven a spy. If she was, she would not even be allowed into this country based on the security parameters of any immigrant coming into this country. Third, we have companies, large companies, that deal with the US government from DoD to Energy to Treasury and so forth. Should they also be considered as linked to the government and be suspicious in all that they do? I think not. Third, no evidence has been presented, but plenty of allegations from that FD 1023 forms in which they are making claims and have no proof.

    No YT Video or other website will show any proof. They may claim it is proof in their opinion, but their opinions really don't matter, do they/.
     
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    It is about the votes, not the attendees. With Trump, he had a cult following like many famous hard rock groups of the 70s and 80s did. Some have spent over $30k attending all of his rallies and so forth. But in the end, it is not about who attends which political even and how much or how often, it is about the votes and who goes and votes for that candidate.
     
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    Again, what truth? So far, not one shred of evidence that would be accepted in any US Court of Law has been provided. FD 1023s are not worth much if you know tha they are used to write down raw, unverified information. You need the additional evidence of what came from those interviews to make it worthwhile, and so far, not even the House Oversight Committee is willing to do that.
     
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    “F-bomb This”: The Biden Administration’s Brutal Censorship Faceplant. An awkward moment in the Missouri v. Biden case highlighted how the administration sure didn’t like Internet censorship, when they were on the business end of it.

    Bribed Biden 'lawyer Daniel Bentele Hahs Tenny was under fire all day from judges who appeared unconvinced that statements from White House officials about content like, “I’m wondering if we can get moving on the process of having it removed ASAP” do not constitute coercion. At one point Tenny was saying the state couldn’t be coercing social media companies if, for instance, the FBI only succeeded in getting material taken down 50% of the time. “The idea that social media companies had to bend to the FBI’s will, when half the time they didn’t, just doesn’t support those theories.”'

    This inspired the following exchange between Tenny and Judge Don Willett:

    'WILLETT: Does coercion necessarily entail a threat, either overt or covert? Isn’t a directive itself enough to constitute unconstitutional coercion, absent an “or else” consequence?

    TENNY: I guess I’m not sure what a directive means without a threat like—

    WILLETT: “Do this, why haven’t you done this? Get this done. F-bomb do this.”'

    'Willet was referring to a series of emails that included a July 15, 2021 communication from White House official Rob Flaherty reading, “Are you guys ****ing serious? I want an answer on what happened here and I want it today”:'
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    'Tenny tried to defuse Willett’s question quickly. “I mean, so the, the f-bomb thing, to be clear, is not about content moderation at all… No, I don’t think that’s coercion.”'

    Judge Jennifer Elrod frowned. “It wasn’t about taking something down?”

    “No,” said Tenny.
     
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    The ones that are splashed about in Congress and the Senate, you know, those ones. The ones you cover your eyes, ears with.
    Building a bulletproof case for the scum. Just wait, the streets will be garnished with human wind chimes soon enough.
     
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    Nope, it tells you that crowd size does not equal votes.
     
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    My point is, which most miss extensively is that
    Trump has numbers at his rallies and numbers in his vote count.
    Bidet has more numbers in the vote count, but nowhere near the numbers at his rallies.

    DO YOU SEE THE BIG DIFFERENCE?!

    Why don't Bidet's rally numbers rival Trump's?
    Because Bidet's vote count is bullshit. Most votes aren't from real people.
     
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    You have not made a point here. Rallies mean nothing to who gets elected. The votes and those who voted for that candidate does. Not everyone votes for a candidate because they agrtee with them politically. Many vote because they are voting aganst the other major candidate. This is how Biden won the 2020 election. Even among Democrats, he was not their first choice, but most Democrats will not vote for DJT either. You had some independents who voted for Trump in 2016 but not in 2020, and vice versa. And the list continues.

    Look I have never been to a rally in all my life. Not a single one, and yet, I have voted for president since I was 18 years old. Some were Republican and some were Democrat. I have my priorities on the national political scene which is primarily economics, free trade, and immigration. My priorities are different at state and local levels and which issues are the most important. But I do vote. And yet, 80% of the country who have voted is like me. They have not been to rallies of any kind, but they do vote. Some may have voted for Trump, others for Biden, and a few for a third-party candidate. And what you are literally trying to do here is put a square peg in a very small round hole. And that does not work logically.
     
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    that is not truth, that is political spin to the core.

    they are not building anything. Nothing they have produced would convict Joe Biden of anything. They are not connecting the dots, if it were. They are making plenty of allegations, but no proof at all. FD 1023s are not proof, they are just unfounded allegations. Deposits is not proof other than the fact that he received X amount of dollars. But when it comes to nafarious claims, not bit of supporting evidence such as contracts, agreements, etc. Even the Text messages don't support anythng if you READ them all in sequential order.
     
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    You do realize this is a technical, probably computer or website, type of problem. The first email ackonwledged there was a problem in May. The person responded and was shocked, which is obvious in that exchange, then it was a brief explanation on what the problem was, and then the person wanted to know more about it.

    So how is this a crime or something nefarious? It is not, and you just disproved your case entirely.
     
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    you have to look at demographics. Most are older americans, probably self employed, retired, disabled, unemployed, and so forth. So they have "time on their hands." What you don't see are plumbers and trade workers at that rally who are actually, well working. If they are there, they have taken personal time off even if it means that they lose a day' or two pay.

    Biden's rallies are mostly to young people and generally young people don't like to go to rallies unless it is "exciting and worthwhile" in their minds.
     
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    Fake News. The Court already ordered the Bribed Biden Administration to stop contacting Social Media to violate the constitutional rights of Americans, and this appeal was the Bribed Biden Administration trying to get that order lifted.

    Do you think that when the judge tells you that the Bribed Biden Administration is acting like a Mafia Crime Boss as they violate the rights of Americans that the case is going well for Bribed Biden?

    You just further demolished your credibility.

    How helpful is it for the Court to describe Biden as Mafia Boss in the same week that Devon Archer is testifying on Biden Crime Family, headed by Bribed Joe, sucking up International Bribes like Hunter vacuuming up lines of cocaine off a hooker's hinder parts?
     
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    Because you...
     
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    What is it then? Speculation? Why would they waste their time with speculation, because it isn't?
     
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    If you refer to Trump, yeah, they look just like the people you describe, NOT!


    Yeah, a lot of geriatrics, disabled and retired in the crowds... auiqs.jpg.gif
    So where do you get your material? JOKES 'R' Us?
     
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    Wow, what a huge crowd of diversity!! auiqs.jpg.gif



    It appears the cameras just focus on the same group, is that because there is so little of a crowd? YEP! auiqs.jpg.gif
     

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