Trade War begins: US and China exchange $34 billion in tariffs

Ah, the ole projection to avoid responsibility. Typical.

 

O he of the extensive rrwff bumpersticker library and diamond hard confirmation bias, declares. Typical indeed.

We can do this all day long. And at the end of the day the only thing that will be readily apparent to both of us, is that I am far more witty and informed than you.

 

Bullshit. More fascist nationalist fantasies. But I get your intent.

 

You may be right, Baff, and we will see.

The EU should have focussed on trade only rather than create a political union. It is impossible to overcome cultural and national loyalties and connect with a bureaucracy in Brussels. Perhaps this will focus their attention on what's genuinely important.

 

@Jonsa

Fascism came from Europe.
It was defeated by amongst others, the Americans.

The goal of the fascists was to unite Europe into a glorious super power and herald an age of enlightenment.

They don't much like it that we stopped them.
So they are having another go.

America stopped them once, and it has never been forgiven.

 

Oh? do not misunderstand the relationship? you think it was because of anti american sentiment?

Get back to us when you have a better handle on the real reasons the EU was established. anti american sentiment had nothing to do with it.
Given its long history of various factions attempting to unite europe by conquest, like the fall of the wall, a united europe was achieved without a shot fired.

 

I don't have any faith them.
With no democratic checks and balances they have free reign to pursue their ideologies.

 

And I never claimed otherwise, but EVERY country in the world was not being discussed.

Is that your understanding?

Yep. When are you going to read and understand posts before responding?

 

Hahahahaahahah!

What a student of history you are. I am well aware of the goal of the nazis and their thousand year reich bullshit.

And here you are claiming that the EU is just a replacement strategy equivalent to the nazi's Reich. Absurdity seems to be a necessary ingredient in formulating your world view.

 

I watched the EU being established.
In every single speech anti-Americanism was forefront of the debate.
This went down piss poorly in the UK, I can tell you.

Europe isn't united. We are leaving the EU.
Shots have been fired in Ukraine. ****ing loads of them.
It turns out half of them didn't want to join the EU.
No surprise to me, 74% of us didn't want to either.


Here is a little warning from history, No nation has ever been born without a war.
The EU seeks to be a nation to rival US hegemony.
There has been one war already, in only it's first 25 years and there will be more.
They have always wished for their own army and they will soon have it.

 

American is an existential threat to europe? Who knew?

 

A little warning from history? Perhaps you should read some history before making sweeping statements.

For instance, Canada was born as a sovereign nation without war as where other nations on this planet. Any number of former colonies became sovereign without war.

 

You claim Trump is a fascist.
So er... look who's talking.

Trump is an anti capitalist anti democratic marxist socialist dictator. Er no. He isn't.
He's the democratically elected President of a liberal democracy. From a right of centre party and one of the worlds foremost and famous capitalist pigs!

 

You are going to have to show me the source for this data.

My source says the price for American hot rolled coil (whatever that is) was $754 3/17 and $837 2/18

And the world global composite carbon steel index increased about $100 in the same period anyway. Asian HR Coil is up $72 in the same period.

http://www.worldsteelprices.com

Sure, the prices of steel causes inflation. But no jobs will be lost because of that inflation. Only Jimmy Carter managed the trick of

And a lot of jobs mining and transporting the raw materials will also be gained.

Pity the poor EU steel worker when China dumps the steel it used to sell to the US in Europe.

Anyway, your numbers look dubious to me. Where did you get them?

 

Canada was probably born in the American War of Independence.
It has had wars. Vs the French, most likely the natives and definitely America.
Up the redcoats!

Maybe Australia and New Zealand didn't have wars? Have to ask the aboriginals I guess.

 

What is your solution to the hollowing out of US industry caused by US corporations shifting production to low wage countries?

 

Only in your mind.

 

Oh so a global phenomena that arose from America's global footprint is the motivation for the establishment of the EU? Are you serious, or is it just trump's narcisssim rubbing off on his followers and allies that figures everything ultimately is about themselves.

Not understanding, judgement based on thousands of examples from the usual suspects.

Bout the same time you stop posting bumperstickers, fallacies and partisan bullshit spin? But that's just a guess.

 

The EU has a 70% steel tariff vs China. Has done for a couple of years now.
The EU loves tariffs.

 

Not you apparently.

America is an existential threat to European ambition.
It has thousands of soldiers deployed in Europe.
Invaded around half of it and never left.

These people, they have no national pride.
And they want it.

 

Huh? Must be great stuff ya got there.

FAscism doesn't preclude capitalism at all. Unlike you I have read mein kampf, I have studied German economic policies under his nightmare regime. Seems lots of nazi capitalists were making tons of money until the gravy train got blown the hell up.

Maintain the bliss.

 

Huh? my my, who knew you were such an astute interpreter of history? You couldn't be more amusingly ignorant - wait - I take that back, of course you can.

 

Didn't know your own countries history?
I am here to help.

Let's start you with Wiki.
After that you can discover the rest on your own.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Canada

 

Fascists are anti capitalists. Hitler was a marxist.
His party was the workers peoples party and he hated aristocracy.
Did he achieve the end of capitalism? no.
He famously failed in his ambitions.

 

You should focus more on understanding a post before commenting, avoid the usual left wing cliches where everyone but you is a "fascist', and perhaps seek out some anger management counseling.