Trump commutes Roger Stone's sentence

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  1. HumbledPi

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    Nobody gave me a shred of proof to the contrary that Roger Stone is not a traitor to the United States. Roger Stone is a convicted felon, convicted in a US Federal courtroom with a jury of peers, and no.... they were not all "libruls".
     
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    You are projecting - it is you who have not given any proof that backs up your claim that Trump is a Putin Puppet.

    You were given proof that the Stone prosecution was a kangaroo clown show. Now you are trying to move the goalpost "Prove Stone is not a Traitor". This ridiculous mindbending nonsense.
     
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    You showed me NO PROOF at all, none, zero, zip, nada, zilch---NONE.

    Roger Stone was convicted of lying to Congress twice. He was convicted of obstruction of justice and witness tampering. He has been open about his purpose and intention which was to protect the president and Trump in turn protected Roger Stone. Stone was part of a coverup operation on the president's behalf.

    The jury was 100% convinced that the prosecution proved the case against Roger Stone. Even Bill Barr said that the prosecution was righteous and that the sentence was correct.
     
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    The Jury Rules on what it is told to rule on. That does not change the fact that Russiagate was a kangaroo clown show.

    The problem is that you have no clue what the word "Legitimate Authority" means - and so you did not recognize the proof when shown to you.

    What part of Dems vs Trump and Russia - the judge ruled that disseminating information from the hack was legal - did you not understand ?
     
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    You do realize that President Trump did not pardon Roger Stone. He merely commuted his sentence. Stone still remains a convicted felon. But let's not forget that Stone was prosecuted by an investigation that should have never taken place. There is a term used by the judicial system called "fruit of the poisonous tree". If an investigator or prosecutor does something that is not allowable in court, then everything that follows is inadmissible in court. There was no legal grounds to investigate the Trump Campaign for colluding with the Russians. This makes the entire investigation illegal. To compound the matter, the FBI used a fake Dossier, and 14 violations of the FISA Court to spur their illegal investigation. So, if the investigation was illegal, and illegally conducted, then all that follows should have been thrown out. Just like Sullivan in the Flynn case, Berman has shown herself to be a Trump hating judicial activists.
     
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    The commuting of Stone's case is far less pungent then Clinton's pardon of Marc Rich, or Obama's pardon Bowe Bergdahl.
     
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    No one had any evidence of the conspiracy. So you think stone did? For he was the last one to prosecute?

    He was in court due to the hoax. Vindicativeness was gonna find charges and did.

    Where's the proof he was in bed with assange? I'd love to see it. But its never been shown! Neither has the Russia trump conspiracy. Never happened.
     
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    IMO both Intel and FBI knew there are was no connection between trump and Putin and no conspiracy. The witch hunt was political.
     
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    IMO both Intel and FBI knew there are was no connection between trump and Putin and no conspiracy. The witch hunt was political.
     
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    We shall see in 2021. I think Trump will go to jail
     
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    Thats been proven OM - There was never any justification for security council investigation for the "crime" of releasing information from the DNC hack - because this is not a crime.

    Premising a "Special Council" on the basis of such justification would then be an illegitimate abuse of authority - this was what was essentially found after the Clinton affair .. and changers were supposedly made. Questions about how many inches of cigar slick willy inserted into monica's oval orifice is not relevant to White Water.

    This was Derschowitz position then - and it was the same now.

    We are then left with two "legitimate" justifications for an investigation of Trump that "were claimed" to rise to the bar of "National Security Risk" 1) The Hack 2) the FB emails.

    1) Trump had nothing to do with the Hack - no planing involvement - he did not pay anyone to Hack the DNC and so on. This was known very early on.

    2) Trump did not fund the FB hackers - the whole 100,000 in money spent on FB ads ... many of which were not "Propaganda" but "The Truth". as was the case with the release of the DNC information.

    This was known very early on.

    In Dems vs Trump an the Russians - the civil case - the Judge ruled there was no ability to charge someone with releasing information from the hack. Freedom of the Press still exists - to some degree - and much hanging by a thread - which would have been broken had the DNC/Dems succeeded in this part of their case.

    This was a true Kangaroo clown show - on many levels.
     
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    No way unless the banana republic of the dems does it. And they won't. Assuming they beat trump.

    You guys should have heeded Greenwald when he tried to tell you and msm this was a farce. Msm then blacked out Greenwald..Imagine that! A Pulitzer prize winning liberal gay journalist! See how absurd this was?.
     
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