Trump fighting a 'secret war' in the courts to keep witnesses from testifying

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  1. Nwolfe35

    Nwolfe35 Well-Known Member

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    There weren’t 74 million in DC. Were the people at the “Stop the Steal” rally reasonable?
     
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    I suppose they could have rioted anywhere. How many peacefully assembled in DC?
     
  3. Nwolfe35

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    Try answering the question.
     
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    If someone tells a deranged person that 5 year old Timmy Smith plans on killing them and points them to Timmy Smiths house, do they bear any responsibility when the deranged person kills Timmy? After all no reasonable person would believe it.
     
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    DailyKos wouldn't know what a "secret war" was even after a FISA Court judge slapped them across the face.
     
  6. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I answered your question: "Do you believe the Trumpsters listening to his speech were “reasonable”?"

    That answer does not fit the sweeping generalization fallacy being presented, so now you want to focus on those in DC. Take the total sum of those attending and the total sum of those that were charged with a crime and you will have your answer.

    BTW, the term "Trumpsters" was fed to people to rebleat for the purpose of demonizing those with opposing beliefs. Since we are discussing people manipulating others into turning against their fellow Americans, I thought I would point that out.
     
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    I will make it as specific as possible. Were the people that breached the Capitol reasonable? Was Trumps speech reasonable?
     
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    That is an example worthy of a South Park episode. Completely irrelevant and far from reasonable, but entertaining nonetheless.
     
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    I am not defending him or the thugs. I am not a trump supporter, have never voted for him, will not be voting for him in the future. I have a low opinion of him and the overreach and abuse of power his party is known for. The same way I won't buy his BS, Im not buying yours. There is nothing he said/wrote that a reasonable person could translate into a call for violence. If political platitudes cause you to commit crimes, you are responsible.
     
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    Again with the reasonable. I asked before, if you tell a deranged person something no reasonable person would believe, knowing that it will anger them, do you bear any responsibility if that person goes on a rampage?
     
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    It’s absolutely relevant. Trump told a crowd of enraged lunatics that the election was being stolen ab
    Nd that the only way to stop it was to “fight like hell”
     
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    Your example is far from reasonable. You are trying to compare broadcasting to the masses to telling an individual known to be "deranged" to commit violence. Timmy!

    Yes, that is your original claim you have yet to qualify with facts.
     
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    Any involvement in the riot you pretend exist is strictly conspiracy theory.
     
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    Got it, you don't live in reality as a POTUS sits by and watches insurrectionists attack the seat of democracy, FOR HOURS, it's all a conspiracy he cheered them on
     
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    Being invited into the capital by Capital police is not an insurrection all you have to do is watch the videos and not suffer from OMBS
     
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    Seditious conspiracy- 11 so far, hoping Trump makes 12
     
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    I wouldn't hold your breath.
     
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    Obstruction, tax fraud, just about any of those charges being looked at in NY, Georgia, feds, etc
     
  21. Polydectes

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    Maybe you should hold your breath.
     
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    Oh I'm patient
     
  23. Polydectes

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    I think it's going to take more than patience.
     
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    does it surprise anyone, Trump went to court to keep Stormy from telling America what she knew about the President

    imagine a country where it's voters are not allowed to speak what they know aout their President

    on top of that, the Trump FBI tapped her lawyers phones
     
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    I recognize some people will maintain disbelief no matter what, but..........

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62140410

    Do you accept he could incite the riot at the Capital without saying the words, "go attack the Capital?"
     
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