Trump floats delaying election despite lack of authority to do so

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  1. Phyxius

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    READ THE EFFIN' MANUAL!!!

    He has until 11:59:59 am on 1/20/2021, and not one second longer.

    Definitely not Andy Kauffman ironic...
     
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    that doesn’t mean the results of the election can’t be challenged and tied up in court. Look at NY right now
     
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    Every time I think that his stupidity has hit rock bottom he grabs a shovel...
     
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    They can be tied up until 11:59:59 am on 1/20/2021, and not one second longer. At noon he'll be unemployed.
     
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    Totally, Phyx.

    I think they should look into hiring back Megyn Kelly for One-Night Only.

    Maybe even have her shoes equipped with shiny Metal Heel Taps.

    That way, that Clickety-Clack (will be more dramatic).

     
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    Amendment XII
    (Ratified June 15, 1804)

    The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;

    The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted.

    The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.

    The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

    Amendment XX
    (Ratified January 23, 1933)

    Section 1
    The terms of the President and Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January, and the terms of Senators and Representatives at noon on the 3d day of January, of the years in which such terms would have ended if this article had not been ratified; and the terms of their successors shall then begin.

    Section 2
    The Congress shall assemble at least once in every year, and such meeting shall begin at noon on the 3d day of January, unless they shall by law appoint a different day.

    Section 3
    If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

    Section 4
    The Congress may by law provide for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the House of Representatives may choose a President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them, and for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the Senate may choose a Vice President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them.

    Section 5
    Sections 1 and 2 shall take effect on the 15th day of October following the ratification of this article.

    Section 6
    This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission.
     
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    Totally.

    At this point Trump is Jackhammering DOWN from the center of the Marianas Trench.

    Going even LOWER with each passing Twitter Rage Tweet and Daily Bout of Brain Diarrhea.

    Donald Trump? :roflol:

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    there certainly might be a constitutional crisis but litigation takes time.

    we may have an empty oval for some time
     
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    No. Read the manual. Even SCOTUS is powerless after noon on 1/20/2021. What you believe is irrelevant. The Constitution is unambiguous. Deal with it, or don't - it won't change a damn thing.

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    WRONG.

    If NO Federal Election is held, then Patrick Leahy will become President.

    That has been common knowledge for months.

    Everybody Knows that.

    You seem to be rather misinformed about the implications of NO Federal Election.

    If NO Federal Election is held, the House terms all expire (as well a third of the senate).

    Thus, since more GOP seats will be lost, the Dems will take control of the senate.

    Leahy as Pres. Pro Tem would become President.

    There is no way around that.

    There WON'T be a Constitutional Crisis, Leahy would become President. Period.

    https://www.uspresidentialelectionnews.com/2020/03/could-we-see-president-patrick-leahy-next-year/
     
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    Lol!! Trump is such a troll! He knows how to upset his haters!!!
     
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    And if Humpty Trumpty tries to contest the results and draw things out past January 20th, Biden's VP is president until the case is resolved.
     
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    Absolutely.

    But, once the Electors meet, there won''t be anything to "contest".

    Mail-In Ballots shouldn't take more than a couple of weeks (at the longest).

    But, Trump is acting like he could retain power if there is NO Election.

    Which he CAN'T.

    Trump is a Complete IMBECILE.
     
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/30/opinion/trump-delay-election-coronavirus.html

    Trump Might Try to Postpone the Election. That’s Unconstitutional.

    He should be removed unless he relents.

    By Steven G. Calabresi

    Mr. Calabresi is a co-founder of the Federalist Society and a professor at Northwestern University’s Pritzker School of Law.

    July 30, 2020, 4:03 p.m. ET

    I have voted Republican in every presidential election since 1980, including voting for Donald Trump in 2016. I wrote op-eds and a law review article protesting what I believe was an unconstitutional investigation by Robert Mueller. I also wrote an op-ed opposing President Trump’s impeachment.

    But I am frankly appalled by the president’s recent tweet seeking to postpone the November election. Until recently, I had taken as political hyperbole the Democrats’ assertion that President Trump is a fascist. But this latest tweet is fascistic and is itself grounds for the president’s immediate impeachment again by the House of Representatives and his removal from office by the Senate.

    Here is what President Trump tweeted:

    With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???
    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 30, 2020

    The nation has faced grave challenges before, just as it does today with the spread of the coronavirus. But it has never canceled or delayed a presidential election. Not in 1864, when President Abraham Lincoln was expected to lose and the South looked as if it might defeat the North. Not in 1932 in the depths of the Great Depression. Not in 1944 during World War II.

    So we certainly should not even consider canceling this fall’s election because of the president’s concern about mail-in voting, which is likely to increase because of fears about Covid-19. It is up to each of the 50 states whether to allow universal mail-in voting and Article II of the Constitution explicitly gives the states total power over the selection of presidential electors.

    Election Day was fixed by a federal law passed in 1845, and the Constitution itself in the 20th Amendment specifies that the newly elected Congress meet at noon on Jan. 3, 2021, and that the terms of the president and vice president end at noon on Jan. 20, 2021. If no newly elected president is available, the speaker of the House of Representatives becomes acting president.

    President Trump needs to be told by every Republican in Congress that he cannot postpone the federal election. Doing so would be illegal, unconstitutional and without precedent in American history. Anyone who says otherwise should never be elected to Congress again.

    Steven G. Calabresi is a co-founder of the Federalist Society and a professor at Northwestern University’s Pritzker School of Law.
     
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    Fat Ass Liar's whining about the Nov. 3 election, knowing that he could not defer his fate at the hands of the American people is, very likely, just a set up for his need to delegitimize the election. He know he'll need a fake excuse for losing, and is laying the groundwork.

    It is a virtual certitude that the petty narcissist is constitutionally incapable of honorably accepting defeat.
     
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    There was a question in that garbage?
     
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    Election Day was fixed by a federal law passed in 1845, and the Constitution itself in the 20th Amendment specifies that the newly elected Congress meet at noon on Jan. 3, 2021, and that the terms of the president and vice president end at noon on Jan. 20, 2021. If no newly elected president is available, the speaker of the House of Representatives becomes acting president.

    Of course, if NO Federal Election is held, the House will be dissolved.
    And the senate would flip to Democratic control (due to more GOP seats expiring)
    Thus, Patrick Leahy, as Pres. Pro Tem of The senate would become the President.
     
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    A very simple and straightforward one. Maybe you should try reading it again...
     
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    Only for people with basic reading comprehension.
    Guess you missed it.
     
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    But guess what. No mail in voting now eh. See how it works.
     
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    Where is my money? In the bank of course.
     
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    Where is my money? In the bank of course.
     
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    Had to post it twice in case you didnt understand.
     
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    Aaaaaaand we have a flyover. Wasn't even close, either... :roflol:

    Twice it would seem... :roll:
     
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    Maybe repost your supposed question. Get your buddy to help you find it.
     
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