Trump: I think 'I'd take' foreign help for 2020

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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    The Clintons also accepted help from Russian agents.
     
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    You might have a point were it not for the fact that Trump has already done it, and was advertising that he would gladly do it again.

    He tried to walk it back on Friday, in his usual pathetic and disingenuous manner.
     
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    In fact The Clintons did collude with Russia. Trump clearly did not. Everyone now knows that because of The Mueller Report.
    The Deep State just spent 3 years proving that Trump is absolutely innocent. I am sure Trump is very grateful.
    Without the extensive Witch Hunt some Americans might still have some doubts about Trump. :)
     
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    No, I’m talking about the BS that folks like you swallowed wholesale and parroted here, and elsewhere (as if you didn’t know).

    You’re not even good at playing games!

    https://www.npr.org/sections/alltec...pumped-out-fake-news-during-the-2016-election

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/11/fake-news-russia-donald-trump
     
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    I assume you're equally opposed to Obama's open meddling in the Israeli election against Netenyahu, with taxpayer money, right? Or maybe you're still on the Hopium.

    Newsflash, Russia has been interfering in US politics since 1917. During the Cold War some liberals were Soviet agents, and a couple were even executed for treason. If only the LW cared about Russian interference when it mattered.
     
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    Ah yes, CNN. One of the most biased media sources out there that spin like there's no tomorrow. What you quoted was only half of what was said. here's the rest. Although you're the one that only quoted part of what was said this time. Are you a CNN reporter by chance?

    That is directly from the Mueller report. Starts in Paragraph 6 line 7.

    Mueller report PDF courtesy of NBCNews

    If the FBI Special Counsel who had access to millions of documents, 1500 subpoenas, hundreds of people interviewed, and 40+ investigators/lawyers, and foreign governmental help couldn't establish that anyone in the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government then there WAS NONE. Simple fact. No matter how much you, CNN, or other Never Trumpers pray or wish that there was.

    Edit: One more thing... And oh yeah....Trump never once asserted executive privilege through out the whole of Muellers investigation. IE: He never denied Mueller anything except a personal interview as his lawyers cautioned against it as prosecutors/lawyers often like to try and entrap people by twisting words. Something lawyers themselves admit to and say openly.
     
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    Courts have already established that no one has to report anything to LEO's.
     
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    What was he learning and who were his sources?
    It was leaked earlier but not published until a week before the Inauguration.
    Really? Which have been confirmed and which unconfirmed? The FISA Court was told the dossier had been 'Verified'. Was that true?
     
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    I didn’t say the Trump campaign conspired with Russia. I said they accepted help - that they expected to benefit from Russian interference and did nothing to stop or report it.
     
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    Trump did use what was released by Russia into the public sphere, but he did not accept information from Russia. There is a difference. Accepting information would be along the lines of the meeting between Trump Jr. taking info from that Russian (can't remember name) during that one meeting. He in fact rejected it.

    As for not reporting it to the FBI...that is not against the law. The courts have already ruled previously that no one has to give information voluntarily to LEO's. Has to do with Freedom of Speech.
     
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    And it's been claimed that the Russians who helped Steele put together his fake dossier would never have done so without approval from someone high up in the Kremlin.
     
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    What help was this?
     
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    Mueller report clearly states Trump took no help from Russia. Give it up.
     
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    That article falsely says the Dossier was 'verified", just as the FBI said to the FISA Court, when we all should know it wasn't.

    That was one of the many lies which led to the firings within the FBI, and more will likely be exposed when the ongoing investigation is complete.

    And on what grounds was the FBI investigating Donald Trump?
     
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    Mueller report clearly states that he expected to benefit from Russian interference.
     
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    So Russia was interfering\ in the election and no on did anything about it? How could that possible happen if, as is claimed, Trump was under surveillance during this period? Why wasn't Trump informed of this interference, if that was so?

    Please quote that 'clear statement'.
     
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    1. Yes, Russian was interfering
    2. Yes, the FBI did do something about it - including put people like Carter Page under surveillance
    3. No, Trump was NOT EVER under surveillance. The only people who are claiming that are RW fever swamp conspiracy theorists
    4. Why wasn't he informed? I don't know. Maybe because, if you are concerned that crimes are being committed, you don't tip off the people who might be involved.

    Clear statement from the Mueller report:
    "the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts"
     
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    You'll need some evidentiary support for your claims.
     
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    Yeah, this whole thing is an argument of morals, not laws. The argument is that it is immoral to not report these things.
     
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    What's your point?

    You mean British intelligence operative?

    Did Trump do this?
     
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    If that was all that there was to the argument then we wouldn't be all that bad off. But its not. People are demanding legal repercussions when it comes to the other party while ignoring their own parties immoralities.
     
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    My question is, why would a foreign government provide one candidate with information on their rival?
     
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    What information was provided?
     

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