Trump Is Disqualified From the 2024 Ballot, Colorado Supreme Court Rules

Not only was Trump never charged, nobody has ever been charged, let alone convicted. Basically what happened is Democrats began calling something an insurrection despite not reaching the legal standard for an insurrection. Then a state court used this new colloquial meaning of insurrection and claimed Trump engaged in an insurrection by an act of omission. The irony is that these judges have engaged in an insurrection by a similar colloquial definition.

 

That's just not a constructive or helpful attitude to take about government.

Government, including any system of justice, is always going to require attention.

It depends on we the people. It is our responsibility.

 

Trump is currently under numerous indictments and law suits.

You need to recognize that fact.

Also, section 3 of the 14th amendment is certainly not limited to insurrection. It also covers rebellion against the constitution and aiding those who do rebel against the constitution. They aren't using some new definition.

"Colloquial definition"? Our system of justice, from the SC on down depends on LEGAL definitions.

 

The CO decision isn't about violence.

It's about Trump's work to defeat the constitution in its specification of elections and transfer of power.

Also, section 3 includes aiding those who worked against the constitution.

 

That is absolutely NOT the only indictment of Trump wrt his efforts to overthrow our election and retain office for himself.

 

The Colorado ruling was because of the Jan 6th riot.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-colorado-supreme-court/

it was totally about violence

 

It's not just about the president. It applies to other office holders as well.

Let's remember that the Speaker of the House was a key leader in the assault on the constitutional process of presidential elections and transfer of power.

There were many Republican office holders who worked to defeat the Constitution to which they had taken oaths to defend.

 

Well, at least you admit that the Jan 6 riot was violent. That's a rare thing for conservatives to admit these days.

 

Hard to claim it was peaceful. Hence the word riot.

 

Did anyone anywhere ever think we would ever see this kind of mass murderously deranged Fascist attack on freedom in their lives in the USA? That a guy that appears to have NOT been involved in Insurrection, never even arrested for such, be banned from a ballot for something he is likely innocent of and never even charged of? Evil.

 

Yet we hear the RW constantly say it was peaceful, or that any violent aspects were undercover FBI agents/antifa. I am glad you haven't fallen for that ****.

 

Why did he proudly record a hit song with some of the violent insurrectionists? Was he just joshin?

 

No, it was because Trump worked to subvert our constitution - the constitution that he swore to uphold.

You need to listen to Judge Luttig, whose statements on this are posted above.

He states that the press has missed the point on a regular basis, as the issue is that Trump rebelled against the constitution.

He worked to subvert the election process and the transfer of power as stated in the constitution.

Section 3 doesn't require violence and Trumps transgressions are NOT limited to acts of Jan 6.

 

I wouldn’t call that RW. I would call that the extreme right. I think any logical person that put themselves in those senators shoes would likely have fear if they were in the same scenario. Peaceful things wouldn’t cause fear.

 

This is a good point.

Section 3 isn't just about insurrection. It identifies the problem this way:

"... shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

If you read the full section, it's clear that this refers to the enemies of our constitution - the constitution that these people swore to support and defend.

Trump has CLEARLY aided and supported those who assaulted our constitution on Jan 6. And, he has done so repeatedly and in many ways. These last weeks he has referred to those who assaulted our election process and were subsequently arrested as "hostages" of an evil DoJ.

 

Unfortunately, the RW is the extreme right. The moderate right barely exists. The majority of the right still supports Trump, even after his attempt to overthrow the election.

 

Plus, from what I've seen, the Insurrection Act itself has mostly been applied to non-violent acts like railroad strikes. Jefferson was the one who signed the act and was the first to use it, and it was for a non-violent event.

 

Fear of personal safety is a bad sign.

But, it has little to nothing to do with the legal action taken by CO and reviewed by their Supreme Court.

One can fail the test of Section 3 without violence.

 

Trump took the presidential oath of office, and then worked in NUMEROUS ways to prevent the constitutional process of elections and transfer of power to be carried out.

Now, he wants to hold office where he would be again required to take that oath!!!

Why does ANYONE see that as acceptable?

He has committed EXACTLY what the constitution says is disqualifying.

By the way, so has the Speaker of the House.

 

And there is real evidence of all this. NO J6 bullshit or MSN distortions. Didn't Gore and Hilary question their election defeats?

 

How exactly is ‘democracy destroyed’ by upholding the tenets of your Constitution…??

 

Bunkum he did. If he had he would have said more especially after Rudy and the other spoke. “We have to take back” is definitely “fightin’ words

 

Yeah but then what did they do? Did they organise fake electors? Call for people to come to the Capitol and “fight like hell”

 

No he was found to have committed insurrection in the district civil case - the one about his eligibility. Ergo he is ineligible

 

"fight like hell" is a common term. Sports coaches use it frequently. I'd bet even Biden has used it once or twice.