Trump is very confused when it comes to his border wall

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  1. ronv

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    A total fix is worth some money. Trump's Micky Mouse is not worth a dime.
    Go read that bill. I think the Dems would pass it again if you like it.
     
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    Why ask me? Ask the Democrats.
     
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    Your memory is fading quickly.
     
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    Just answer the question.
    You will never ask for another dime for a wall???
     
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    That part would be easily fixed with barbed wire at the top, sensors and border patrol driving by. Will you stop everyone? No, but you sure will cut down on the majority coming in.
     
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    Sorry. I did not see the decimal point. That is why I put the zero in front of it. Old engineering habit.
     
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    Of course we will. The wall needs to be complete. Each increment helps because it forces them to travel more and more in isolated areas.
     
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    So I guess are your economic number are just noise.
    I like @Marine1 proposal. How about you?
     
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    If it does come to that, I'll go down there to help him.
     
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    I would hope not, there is still a lot of border to protect, although we don't have to put barriers up on all of it. Some parts are so desert-less, you would die trying to get to it or find water on this side after crossing. Many have died using the regular crossing points illegals use to sneak in.
     
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    Let me repeat what I said before that you seemed to ignore ronv. Why did the Democrats do this if walls and fences don't work?


    If walls and fences don't work, why did Democrats do this?

    In 2013, Dem Senators Voted To Give $46 Billion To Secure ...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UluGoFeM_B4
    Jan 07, 2019 · In 2013, all 54 Senate Democrats voted to approve $46 billion for border security. That funding included spending for 700 miles of fencing, wrote The Daily Wire.
     
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    That is part of what the US military did when they were at the border. It would probably help, but you can cut concertina wire with wire cutters and use a blanket to get over it.
     
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    Seems to me these Democrats are saying a wall/fence won't work and we can't afford 5 billion dollars to increase border security. Yet here they were giving over 8 times that amount for a fence that won't work just a few years ago.
     
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    Put up the wall or fence with barbed wire and replace their vehicles with water canon trucks, problem solved, except for a few tunnels we find. We can even flood them out when we find them
     
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    They put together a complete package, not some Micky Mouse thing like Spanky.
    That is the difference. Why didn't Boner vote on it?
     
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    Interesting that you left out how Boehner wouldn't even let it come to a vote in the House. Why is that?

    That spending included $30 billion to train at least 19,200 additional border patrol agents on the southern border and $4.5 billion to carry out a border security strategy developed by the Department of Homeland Security. The bill would have also given $8 billion for fencing, infrastructure and technology, as well as $750 million for E-Verify, a system to help employers ensure their employees are legally allowed to work in the U.S.

    Why did Goebbells' Own Party oppose it? Why are you not seething with outrage at RepubliCON opposition to your precious border security when the black guy was in the Oval Office? Enquiring minds want to know.
     
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    I don't know, but if they do it like I just suggested, they'll have a very secure border. Damn few will get across.
     
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    Ahh, I see your problem. You don't know what that proposal was. Give this a look and see if you still think it was a good idea.
    https://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/immigration-bill-summary-093557
     
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    I don't know, but it's crazy putting so many border guards on. They do what they always do, get short of money and pull thousands of those BP off. Walls don't come down when you get short of money.
     
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    Democrats loved border walls until we elected Trump.
     
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    You could put an agent every 10 feet along the border. It wouldn't stop hordes from showing up at that border, claiming persecution in their home countries, and being released into the interior to disappear.
     
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    Why did Goebbells' Own Party oppose it? Why are you not seething with outrage at RepubliCON opposition to your precious border security when the black guy was in the Oval Office? Enquiring minds want to know.
     
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    I have been looking to see why that bill was not passed and nothing seems clear about it. But it does suggest that bill was tied to giving citizenship to the 11 million illegals. They would be given it after so many miles of fencing was complete. Remembering back then the majority of Republicans were against that and screamed their head off to trash it. That makes sense in why so many Democrats were for it, seeing future voters
     
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    I remember how mad I was, Our own Senators McCain and Kyle were on that committee, I think it was called the gang of eight. We called it a sell out to the Democratic Party and a knife in the back to Republicans, as we knew most of them would vote Democratic and give Democrats a huge advantage in future voting. It was a bill mostly to give citizenship to 11 million plus illegals than protecting the border.
     
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    If you aren't a Democrat.....why don't you share what you are? Many of us know your symptoms.
     

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