TRUMP LANDSLIDE REELECTION VICTORY PARTY COUNTDOWN THREAD

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Will Trump win reelection in a landslide?

  1. Yes, this train has no brakes.

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  2. No, I haven't left my basement in nine months.

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  1. Wulfschilde

    Wulfschilde Active Member

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    HE IS RISEN!

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    Although the Romans at MSNBC and CNN wanted you to believe that GEOTUS was dead, after the third day he has risen again and returned to the White House:

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    Some have suggested that Trump was reckless to drive around to wave at supporters during his treatment, as if he wasn't wearing a mask in the car (I thought masks work?), as if the secret service agents weren't likely in the hospital and near Trump during this time anyway, as if Trump didn't have "Black Lives Matter" on his car which we all know makes it impossible to spread COVID:

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    It looks like Dr. President Donald J. Trump, COVID-survivor, first of his name and Lord of Guam (which will not be granted statehood) is back in action with only 28 days to go until we crush Corrupt Sleepy Joe at the polls!
     
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    26 days, Kamala.
     
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    Now then, I wouldn't call Pence a demon. A misguided demon worshiper maybe but not an actual demon.
     
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    I'd like to take a moment to seriously (I know that's pretty contextual around here) discuss the implications of a Joe Biden victory.

    First, we have a mountain of evidence indicating that Joe Biden and friends illegally spied on Trump and his campaign because they wanted to concoct a scenario where he is removed from office despite having won the election. Denying this in the face of this evidence is not only facetious, it's deliberately insulting towards people who are watching the exact same individuals accused openly arguing that Donald Trump should be impeached/removed by the 25th Amendment etc.
    Even though this is clearly amusing for some people, should this kind of behavior be rewarded by the electorate and the system, a significant portion of our population would never again be able to be convinced that our system is legitimate or that many members of our society can be trusted to follow the most basic of ethical principles. I'm not trying to "glow" here, I won't be among those getting violent but those who would permanently lose faith over something like this are disproportionately involved in law enforcement, military and the production of necessary goods such as food, or in the trade sectors that build and maintain our necessary infrastructure. I doubt that a Biden victory would go over peacefully.

    Second, you don't have to study economics for very long before one realizes that there's a limit to how much "quantitative easing" can help an economy before it starts having negative side effects. With several trillion already paid out, if a Joe Biden presidency enacted even a fraction of their environmentalist proposals, it would collapse an already weakened economy. The government would likely respond by trying to prop the economy up by printing more money but we've already printed an historic amount of money recently; doing that multiple times would probably cause dramatic inflation in America, which would render the dollar useless as a currency peg, which would likely cause a worldwide economic crisis from which there would be no easy exit if the environmentalists continued to have influence in America.

    Combining these two issues together, I honestly think it would be fair to predict that one of the largest economic crises of all time could come to pass, during a period when a significant slice of America's population has irrevocably lost faith in their country's system and many of their people. Inflation would skyrocket when they try to print their way out of the coronavirus + green new deal economic hole, at which point price controls would become a thing, which would only piss off the disillusioned producers even more.

    Anyways, the election is in 24 days. Buckle up because either way it's going to be interesting :eek:
     
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    I didn't get to second because first was so far off base and into the realm of conspiracy it's pointless to go on.
    Ask yourself this, if there's such a mountain of evidence why are there no indictments? Are the Republicans in on it? They've spent over $100 million in congressional hearings on Hillary alone. We all have seen the DOJ acting like Trump's personal lawyers and even they won't try to go to court. Your mountain is actually a mole hill they've convinced you is a mountain.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you mean Democrats burning all the cities down or the millions of people who've been taken out of poverty?
     
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    You may want to check those updated poverty numbers. And is there a list of people who have been charged with crimes and their political affiliations? I would bet most of the people who are committing crimes are opportunists who have no interest in politics, but I am just guessing here, just like you are.
     
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    Oh I'd be glad to expound.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/incomes-hit-record-high-poverty-reached-record-low-2019/

    -Real median household income increased by $4,400 in 2019, reaching an all-time record high of $68,700. This represents a 6.8 percent one-year increase, which is the largest one-year increase in median income on record.

    -Income gains in 2019 were largest for minority groups. Real median income grew by 7.9 percent for black Americans, 7.1 percent for Hispanic Americans, and 10.6 percent for Asian Americans (see Figure 1). These one-year increases were all record highs, and the new income levels reached in 2019 were all record highs, as well.

    -Incomes grew across the distribution, and poverty plummeted as a result. The official poverty rate fell to an all-time record low of 10.5 percent in 2019. Over 4 million people were lifted out of poverty between 2018 and 2019 for a 1.3 percentage point decrease. This was the largest reduction in poverty in over 50 years.

    -Minority groups led the way in poverty alleviation. Compared to the overall poverty rate reduction of 1.3 percentage points, black poverty fell by 2.0 percentage points, Hispanic poverty fell by 1.8 percentage points, and Asian poverty fell by 2.8 percentage points (see Figure 2). The poverty rate fell to an all-time record low for every race and ethnic group in 2019. Notably, the black poverty rate fell below 20 percent for the first time in history.


    -The reduction in poverty during the Trump Administration is unprecedented. Between 2016 and 2019, 6.6 million people were lifted out of poverty, the largest 3-year reduction to start any presidency since the initial drop that began the War on Poverty in 1964. The 1.2 million black Americans lifted out of poverty since 2016 is also the largest reduction on record—spanning over 50 years—for the first 3 years of any President’s administration.

    There is data for criminology based on political ideology.

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/309845639_Political_ideology_predicts_involvement_in_crime

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    Yes. The economic expansion begun under Obama lasted until Trump destroyed it with his horrific response to the Covid-19 pandemic. As I wrote, you should check the updated poverty numbers, not what they were during the previous economic expansion. It is likely the four year average poverty numbers under Trump will be the worst in American history. We will have to wait until the updated numbers are released.

    "Political ideology represents an imperfect yet important indicator of a host of personality traits and cognitive preferences. These preferences, in turn, seemingly propel liberals and conservatives towards divergent life-course experiences. Criminal behavior represents one particular domain of conduct where differences rooted in political ideology may exist. Using a national dataset, we test whether and to what extent political ideology is predictive of self-reported criminal behavior. Our results show that self-identified political ideology is mono-tonically related to criminal conduct cross-sectionally and prospectively and that liberals self-report more criminal conduct than do conservatives. We discuss potential causal mechanisms relating political ideology to individual conduct."

    "2.1. ParticipantsData for this study came from the publically available NationalLongitudinal Survey of Adolescent to Adult Health (Add Health). TheAdd Health is a longitudinal, nationally representative sample of youthin high school during the 1994–95 academic year. To date, four wavesof data have beencollected. Waves 1 and 2 were collected when respon-dents were primarily adolescents, while Wave 3 data were collected be-tween 2001 and 2002 when respondents were between ages 18 and 28.Wave 4 data were collected in 2008 and 2009. Criminal involvementmeasures were included across all waves, however, only in Wave 3were respondents asked about their civic engagement, including theirpolitical party affiliation and their political orientation. Our analyticalsample contains full data on 4882 cases that span the Wave 2 throughWave 4 collection periods. Detailed information about the Add Healthdataset can be found inHarris et al. (2003)."

    So the participants were between 18 and 35 when all the data was collected (i.e. at an age where people tend to be more liberal than conservative). Their political affiliation was asked when they were 28 (even a younger age). And they self-reported whatever criminal conduct they may have committed. Perhaps people who had liberal beliefs were just more honest. Ask anyone in associated with Trump if they ever committed a crime and they will all say "no" yet they all continue to wind up in jail (of course, "they have all been very badly treated").

    We should do a study from an age of 80-95 to determine which party had more senile participants. Since people 80-95 tend to be more conservative, our study, while "imperfect" could show that people identifying as conservative tend to be more senile than those identifying as liberal.

    What nonsense.
     
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    REEE REEE TUMP MUSTZ LISTENZ TO EXPERTZ WHY HE NO LISTEN HE MUST LOCKDOWN ERRYBODY

    REEE REEEE TRUMPZ SHUTZ DOWN ECONOMIEZ WHY HE RUINZ ECONOMIEZ RREEEE

    Whatever.
     
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    Yea, listening to experts is so dumb. Listening to the demon seed doctor and a radiologist has worked out so well so far.
     
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    15 days to go! Energy has intensified so much that there are Trump rallies on the 405 freeway in California, blocking in the normies. Literal fascism:


    Also, apparently Hunter Biden smokes crack or something. I think we need to see as much evidence as possible that those emails are real, I mean those pictures and videos of Hunter Biden smoking crack can't be that hard to come by, they could have found those anywhere and just added them to the hard drive along with the... 26,000 mails released today? I mean, maybe most of those emails are real but some of them were fake then? Oh, that video of the Chinese guy discussing the laptop, certainly they could have hired an actor who speaks Chinese too. Basically there is no evidence that this stuff is real just because it all fits together as well as it does. We need proof! :D
     
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    Which time?

    The time they told us Covid wasn't a threat or it was? The time they told us masks do nothing or when they said they're more important than a vaccine?

    Sounds like, to be an expert, all you have to do is take polar opposite takes on major issues at different points on a timeline.

    The shutdown of the country was done based on the recommendation of the "experts".

    Trump takes recommendations of the whiners....whiners still whine.
     
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    It is true that in the beginning of the pandemic even the experts didn't know everything about the virus. That's how science works: experts change their opinions as they learn more. It is called the scientific method. Fools don't listen to the advice of experts and instead rely on whack jobs like Dr. Atlas and the demon seed doctor. That is why we have 4% of the world's population and over 20% of the deaths. That is what having an incompetent idiot for a president does to a country.
     
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    They don't know anything now either.

    Keep in mind that, if these people could be trusted, they would have admitted they weren't sure back then.

    After all, they were just as sure then as they are now.

    Fauci's answer as to why he said masks shouldn't be worn? He didn't want you to buy any so they had enough for the important people.

    These are your "experts"?

    Two weeks ago the CDC Director sat in front of the country and told us his mask protects him more than a potential vaccine.

    Later that day, in response to Tucker Carlson, the CDC released a tweet stating that they've always maintained that masks aren't to protect the wearer; they're to protect others.

    Take the red pill.
     
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    They do protect him better but you have to be wearing one too.
    Just because my car has airbags doesn't mean it's OK for you to drive drunk.
     
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    LoL right.

    Maybe he just owns stock in masks being shipped in from China.
     
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    Not knowing everything is not the same as not knowing "anything." No rational person thought the experts had all the answers in the beginning, but they used their considerable knowledge and experience to give the best guidance possible knowing more information would be discovered. The "important" people Fauci wanted to save the PPE for are called "doctors" and "nurses." I agree they should get first crack at the available PPE since they are the most exposed and it is in everyone's interest that these people be protected.

    I have read that most experts agree that masks are better than the first vaccines we will receive. You can mock that, but since I doubt you are a disease expert, I will follow their advice and take their expert opinions seriously. Everything I have heard and read tell me that masks protect both the wearer and other around him or her since the virus can enter through the mouth, but also it can spew as a person talks, or breathes. I will never understand how wearing a mask has become so controversial in Trump circles. It is a cheap, easy form of protection that has no adverse side effects.
     
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    They stated, categorically, that Covid wasn't anything to worry about.

    They stated, categorically, that masks didn't really do anything.

    They stated, categorically, that it could kill two million people.

    They stated lots of things categorically with no room for interpretation.

    Yeah, I understand the reasoning to excuse Fauci.

    Here's the problem: he was willing to lie to you, even if you died, so they could have enough masks.

    These are the people you'd like to bet your life on?

    I will mock it, then I'll back it up with research that has always questioned the effectiveness of masks.

    They're telling you masks keep you safe because they want to keep toilet paper on the shelves.

    https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0141076815583167

    https://www.technocracy.news/masks-are-neither-effective-nor-safe-a-summary-of-the-science/

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1853618/

    https://jamesfetzer.org/2020/08/stu...-useless-in-preventing-the-spread-of-disease/

    https://www.wired.com/story/the-face-mask-debate-reveals-a-scientific-double-standard/

    https://visionlaunch.com/more-than-...ove-face-masks-do-not-work-even-in-hospitals/
     
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    I went to this one because I'm familiar with the NIH and went into the study(s) itself. The part that the anti-maskers latched onto was that there appears no evidence that surgical masks reduce wound infection rates when the surgical team performing the surgery is healthy.
    This is from a March journal no less. Newer data confirms.

    One of the problems is people read a headline and fail to read the story and base their entire opinion on the headline alone. Then they pass the headline along as "proof positive" when the article contradicts that "proof" and then others make a list of these "proofs" and say "You see? PROOF!"
     
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    Yes, there was a time when they didn't know as much as they know now. Shocking.

    What is the alternative to listening to experts? I mean, we could listen to the demon seed quack, or the radiologist who thinks we should allow 6-9 million people to die going for "herd immunity" but that would just be dumb. I guess that's why the orange menace like it so much.
     
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    Oh yes their years of research into this problem has provided many answers.

    Thinking for yourself by examining all information on a topic and being honest with the information.

    You just accept that 6-9 million people will die without asking yourself how that would be possible because someone threw that out there.

    The worst case scenario with Covid is a 99.4% survival rate.

    https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200901/what-changing-death-rates-tell-us-about-covid

    If you apply that to the "general population" of the United States, that's about 2 million people.

    But you don't apply that to the entire population.

    You only apply it to the portion of the population at risk: i.e. those who are advanced in age and have an average of 2.6 comorbidities.

    You're not even going ankle deep using your own mind.

    Take the red pill.
     
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    First day of Florida in-person voting data is in and it's looking like it will be a close but clear win for Trump in the sunshine state.

    https://countyballotfiles.floridados.gov/VoteByMailEarlyVotingReports/PublicStats

    Voted by mail: 812,363 Republicans, 1,293,994 Democrats.
    This gives Democrats a 481,613 vote lead.

    Voted in-person early: 153,743 Republicans, 154,004 Democrats.
    This gives Democrats a 261 vote lead, or a 481,874 vote lead in total.

    At first glance this might look good for Democrats but, unless the first day is a fluke, it confirms that Democrat's mail-in vote is elevated compared to Republicans and that they are about equal in terms of non-mail-in votes.

    If we extrapolate this, in a normal election about 60% of votes happen on election day instead of early. This would mean (if the election were held tomorrow) that there would be about 6,035,260 total votes.

    This number is relevant because we can ask ourselves what kind of lead Trump would need to make up a 481,874 vote difference.

    There's a theoretical 3,621,156 votes remaining (again, if the election were held tomorrow).

    The vote difference (Democrat's current lead) is 13% of the total remaining votes. Therefore, Trump would need to win 64% of the remaining vote in order to break even.

    At first glance, that might sound really challenging for Trump to win 64% of the remaining vote but there's a few things to note:

    1) Even leftist publications are giving Republicans a 60/40 split regarding early vs. election day voting. This would mean that Trump has to make up another 4%.
    2) Conservative publicans are more like 65/35, which would give Trump the win.
    3) Importantly, this is only the first day of in-person early voting data. As more days pass, the Democrat's percentage lead will shrink. With 14 days to go, in-person early voting could still equal or surpass mail-in early voting totals, whereby if the current ratios stay the same (and they stayed mostly the same so far regarding mail-in votes, so they probably will stay the same regarding early votes) the Democrat's lead would shrink. If their lead shrinks, even the leftist numbers on voter splits (60/40) would presume a win for Trump, absent some kind of turnout miracle.
     
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    Right now, 2.7% of people die who are affected. Do the math. I already supplied the link in an earlier post. Perhaps with better medications and better treatments that number will decrease, but we also know people can be re-infected so even if herd immunity is possible, it will only come with the deaths of millions.
     

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