Trump Lies Again

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  1. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Our President has just hit a new low even for him when he said that Obama and most other presidents didn't make calls or contact the families of fallen soldiers.


    “If you look at President Obama and other presidents, most of them didn’t make calls,” Mr. Trump said during a news conference in the Rose Garden with the Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell. “A lot of them didn’t make calls. I like to call when it’s appropriate.”

    And he had the audacity to use that lie to explain why he apparently forgot or was too cowardly to contact the families of the four who died in Nicaragua. There just doesn't seem to be anything too sleezy for Trump in his efforts to duck responsibility or blame others for his self centered callous behavior.
     
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    tres borrachos Well-Known Member

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    You didn't post a link, but here's one that sums it up well.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...fallen-troops/ar-AAtD1Al?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp

    President Trump is lying because his lack of caring about fallen soldiers was and still is on full display. Over 2 weeks after 4 soldiers were killed, he has yet to make a comment on it. The man is a disgrace.

    By the way, the 4 soldiers were killed in Niger, not Nicaragua. Not that it changes this story but just wanted to mention it so the OP is accurate.

    Trump sucks.
     
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    So you seem to be making the claim that all previous presidents have called the families of all KIA soldiers(ill be nice and just start at WW2 and not go all the way back to the 1700’s).

    So FDR called hundreds of thousands of families....
    Truman called tens of thousands of families....
    JFK called thousands of families....
    LBJ called tens of thousands of families....
    Nixon called thousands of families.....
    Bush sr called hundreds of families....
    Bush Jr called thousands of families.....
    And Obama called thousands of families....

    That’s ridiculous.
     
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    Who did and didn't call the families of fallen soldiers is really a mute point. The big 'point' that can't be overlooked is trump is a pathetic shell of a man that is nothing more than a moron causing embarrassment to our country. That is an embarrassment to those in this country that have the capabilities to recognize what embarrassment is. This is what's ridiculous.
     
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    Interesting that you would accuse the OP of making a strawman when, in fact, it is you who made the strawman. He never said that the former called every single family. And Trump said, "most of them didn't make calls" which is a wholly different ****ing point from "they didn't call all of the families."

    The depths to which trumpettes will stoop to interpret the god emperor. ****ing weak ****.
     
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    That there are still americans that think Trump is a credible commander in chief is baffling to me.

    I see the defense forming that claims other presidents couldn't call thousands of families and that is entirely true.

    But this is Donnie Twilter, who has a long and loud twitter history. Its about the things he as said in the past, the litany of lies and insults he has hurled over the years.

    Its his opportunistic patriotism cynically used to deflect attention then totally contradicted by his OWN IGNORANCE. (a commander in chief that doesn't know "retreat" - what a leader).

    But what do you want from the leader of the free world that that says "we aren't getting the job done" following up with
    "And I’m not going to blame myself, I’ll be honest. They are not getting the job done."

    Presidential leadership at its finest. What an inspiration to the nation and the world.
     
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    Definitely not as deep as you and your ilk stooped for your fallen messiah who is almost erased from the books and will just be known as the most pathetic president this nation has ever had.
     
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    Pathetic? By whose standards? Perhaps yours but not the rest of the country. Compare my fallen messiah's favorable rating to your pathetic kool-aid peddling moron's rating and those figures will tell you 'whose standards'.
     
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    Idiots? Morons? Uninformed? Stupid?
     
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    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What's ridiculous is your pathetic attempt to apologize for Trump who was obviously too busy on his 5 golfing trips since the soldiers were killed to perform his duties as President.

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    It's even more notable because, once again, he tried to foist his lameness onto Obama but this time, nobody is having any of it; well, except for his die-hard deplorables that is.
     
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    Those are the people who carry your standards?

    Agreed.
     
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    From encouraging pollution, to encourage unsafe working conditions, to escalating the risk of war, to hampering access to healthcare, to hurting LGBT rights, to hampering women's rights...

    It is a testament to Obama's legacy that, when you try to erase it, you are basically just trying as hard as possible to **** **** up.
     
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    No, he cares more than anyone in history has ever cared. Just ask him.

    He even competes and lies to be perceived as the biggest griever. LOL! What a nut.
     
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    :D You actually think that.

    I'd bet hard money that if Obama could run against Trump in 2020, Obama would win by an ACTUAL landslide, not that lame half-assed participation medal trophy that Trump likes to parade around.

    Trump knows this and it obviously bothers him to the point of obsessive psychopathy.
     
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    BREAKING!!! Establishment propaganda arms produce polls showing establishment politicians are well liked and popular.
     
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    Careful there. She is going to be the next target of the rage, and the attempts of smearing her, by Trump and his fan club.
     
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    Trying to deflect by making this into an either/or fallacy doesn't cut it.

    Trump tried to deflect by making the question into one of his habitual attacks on Obama and lied (rather obviously) in the process.

    When he got called out on it, he tried to blame his staff, which is what he always does.

    Why would anyone with any integrity tolerate a man who so obviously has none?
     
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    Yes, it does.

    Obama won both times by very comfortable margins.

    Trump won by playing to an inside straight. He never, ever got 50% of the vote, not even in the primaries. Were it not for winner take all states in the electoral college, he would not be President.

    And his poll numbers (the same polls that ACCURATELY) called the popular vote, have been sinking ever since.
     
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    ThevTrump Turd is a classical example of a Chicken Hawk. It never served ( in the military), dies not several, had never will serve but is ready St the drop of a hat to send troops into war.
     
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    Yup. As soon as Trump comes out against her, they will follow suit and attack her too, as the dutiful little children they are. When Pied Piper Trump picks up his instrument, the little children follow him unquestioningly.
     
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    Perhaps I'm not understanding the current round of rage which is not uncommon. Are we supposed to be mad because he didn't call the families or because he said that he is not unlike most other presidents in his not calling the families or because he hasn't called the families yet? If someone explains it to me, I'll join in on being pissed at something inconsequential as well.
     
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    like his low grade supporters

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    Yes, many if his supporters are Chicken **** Chicken Hawks.
     
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    There are a few points at which you could be pissed off, if you approach the situation objectively.

    First, Trump waited more than 10 days to say anything about the loss of US soldiers and, during that time, took the effort to call out multiple different parties for not doing their job or being patriotic enough. So you could accuse him of hypocrisy or skirting his duties as President.

    Second, Trump also spent much of that time golfing (I want to say 3-5 different times) and so you could accuse him, again, of skirting his duties as President or, at the least, having really poor priorities.

    And third, when Trump did finally respond to the effort, he intentionally chose to deflect from points 1 and 2 by making an objectively false and wholly infuriating allegation against the previous President. And so you could accuse him of lying and/or being a whiny little bitch of a snowflake who can't handle criticism and has to deflect like said whiny little bitch of a snowflake.
     
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    Jesus Christ, does it need to be an incontrovertible impeachable offence for his sycophants to criticize their master? No one is saying to throw the orange POS in jail - the OP is just pointing out what a d-bag trump is. Of course I guess we all know that anyway, right?
     
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